Help me choose a 223 for coyotes

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So I'm in the market for a good used bolt 223 for coyotes this year as I just obtained my hunters licence.

What's a good choice between a savage 10-110, a CZ 527 or a remington 700.

What are twist rates? Heavier bullet faster twist rate, lighter slower?

Sorry for all the questions bit I'm having a hard time trying to decide and am going to be selling my remington 1100 to fund a 223.

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Can't comment on the Rem Vs CZ as I run Savages or Tikkas'.

So far my Savages used have been;

Model 10 Predator Brush - .243
Model 10 Predator Max1 - 22-250 (now sold)
Model 10 FCP-K - .223

Being a diehard Browning (Belgium models) fan, i was skeptical of the Savages initially, but have been pleasantly surprised at their accuracy out of the box & their durability afield.

A faster twist rate will allow heavier bullets ie; 1:7 is good up to approx 75/80gr pills. However, in .224 Cal bullets, going that high of grainage usually only allows "match" style projectiles being available ie; BTHP. Not necassarily the best for dropping a 'Yote effectively & humanely.

Had the canhuntpred board been up & running theres a tonne of info on most 'Yote calibers/rigs/setups that you could easily search for, we're (most active users) are hoping it's not down for long...
 
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Minimum rate of twist is dependent upon bullet length, rather than bullet weight. For example, a flat based round nose bullet doesn't need as fast a twist to stabilize as a VLD, which typically is long for caliber and weight due to the boat-tail, long nose section, and short shank. I personally like fast twist barrels. They will shoot any bullet that the slow twist barrel will, and a few that the slow twist won't, and the terminal performance on game of a bullet fired from a fast twist barrel is in most cases superior. The varmint bullet is more explosive and the game bullet yaws less on impact resulting in deeper penetration. The key though is to not use fragile bullets, a Hornet bullet fired from a 1:7 twist .223 will never get to the target, but on a still day you'll see the dust floating in the air.

There are plenty of bolt guns to choose from, Ruger offers a 1:9, Remington has a 1"9 in their 700 tactical lineup, the standard 700 twist for the .223 is 1:12. The T-3 Varmint is 1:8, and the CZ is 1:12.
 
Today at the range, did zero a Mossberg 223 Target ( AR mag), very tight shooting rifle, with cheap UMC 55gr it was sub MOA at 100 yards, only shoot it 8 times but it look like a very well made rifle with a sweet trigger... JP.
 
caramel said:
Today at the range, did zero a Mossberg 223 Target ( AR mag), very tight shooting rifle, with cheap UMC 55gr it was sub MOA at 100 yards, only shoot it 8 times but it look like a very well made rifle with a sweet trigger... JP.
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You mean mossberg MVP.
 
I'm partial to Savages personally (just my flavour). I've had everything from an Axis to a 10 BATS, and they've all been great shooters. I would say for your intended purpose, that a 1:9" would probably be ideal. It would let you shoot the slightly heavier pills, without choking the light ones, and there are quite a few available in their lineup (and other companies line ups).

Lately I've been toying with my Stevens 200 (Savage model 10) in 22-250, and getting awesome results with it and my handloads.
 
Wow, So much to learn and read up on twist rates!
I'm kind of leading to the savage,
I have a mark 2 g and out of the box performance was pretty impressive, I like the crisp clean pull of the accutrigger and the fact that it's adjustable.
What are the going prices for 10-110 one in the used market?
I'm most likely going to have to sell my 1100 to fund this rifle.
 
Consider the Weatherby S2 Vanguard. These guns are made by Howa in Japan and are quality plus. They guarantee sub 1 moa and you will get it. My s2 in 22-250 is very accurate. This is a bargain priced in at 550 range. excellent trigger clean and crisp. with a 3 lb break.
 
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Consider the Weatherby S2 Vanguard. These guns are made by Howa in Japan and are quality plus. They guarantee sub 1 moa and you will get it. My s2 in 22-250 is very accurate. This is a bargain priced in at 550 range. excellent trigger clean and crisp. with a 3 lb break.
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Very true a S2 is the best deal on the market, my 257 Wty is a lot of rifle for small money... JP.
 
I just got a cz 527 varmint in .223 and it's a beauty. I must mention that the cz's need scope rings/bases that are slotted for 16mm dovetails. I put a vortex diamondback 4-12x40 on high warne rings on it and the bolt handle barely clears the lens! The adjustable set trigger is awesome.
 
Considering you reload and want a coyote gun, why not look at a 243? I have/had most of the standard 22 CFs. I still have the bottom end (222,223,& my fav. a hornet). I have 2 243 and they are my go to for coyotes. I have a Ruger 77 w/ pencil barrel & a Rem. 700 sps. V. Most of the guns you are looking at will all do the same job on coyotes. Find what, in your eyes, looks best, check for how it fits you, and go with that. Remember that many coyotes are shot walking or running. You must be able to swing it. If you do a lot of walking the weight will make a difference. As far as twist I don't know but you will probably be shooting 45-55 gr. and all will shot them. Just more food for thought. If you will need to shoot over 300 then I think you might look at 243. Best of luck & enjoy.
 
I have a CZ 527 varmint laminate in .223, which has the 1:9 twist. It's a great little rifle. It will sling the 75 gr hornady amax in a tight little circle at 100 yards, while my friends savage seems to make the target look like we shot a shotgun at it with the same round.
I use the 75 gr amax for yotes, as I'm not looking to save the fur. More looking to make an example of them for coming too close to my cattle...
 
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