Help me choose a deer rifle

TheCoachZed

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Hey guys,

I need to get a rifle for this fall. It will mainly be used for deer - I plan on continuing to shoot bear with slugs from my 12 gauge, and I have very little hope of landing a moose tag anytime soon. I have a rough idea of what I want in a rifle, but I can't make up my mind. Maybe someone out there has some experience that could guide me? Outside of hunting with all these rifles myself, I have no idea how I could decide.

Cost is a bit of a factor - I'd like to keep it to $500 or less. And, for those who will suggest them, I don't want a Stevens 200 or used Remington 742, no matter how cheap they are. I also want a scoped gun, because I know I can't afford to practice enough with iron sights to rely on them alone.

Most of my hunting will probably just be walking trails and sometimes beating brush, but I probably will spend a bit of time sitting on power lines, looking for the longer shots.

So here's what I'm looking at:

1). Marlin 336
Scoped easily. Ammunition is cheap in .30-30, and if I want to spend mor money, LeverEvolution ammo is supposed to be a huge upgrade. But, is the gun really accurate out past 100 yards? They just don't inspire confidence in accuracy when handled, because of the short barrels. . .and that's why I sold my SKS.

I really don't want a Winchester 94.

2). P14 Enfield sporterized
Everyone says these are tack drivers with iron sights. Trouble is, I'd like to scope my rifle. Aside from that, the rifles seem a bit long for sneaking around in the woods. I can't find a synthetic stock in Canada for it either. But I've always wanted a .303 army rifle . . . and P14s can be had pretty cheaply, too (although the cost of setting it up for hunting would add up pretty quickly). Plus, they should be easier on brass than the Lee Enfield, if I want to reload.

3). Israeli K98
Most people say these rifles are pretty deadly accurate, too, and they've got some neat history. But how much fun is it going to be hauling around a full wood Mauser all day? Scoping, again, could be an issue.

4). Norinco JW-103
I'm not a huge fan of 7.62x39, but I can afford to put a lot of practice in with it. I know pretty much nothing about these guns, except they don't come with iron sights, and that's not cool. They used to be affordable.

5). Lee Enfield
.....they're a fine-working rifle, but hard on brass, and lots of them are shot-out. I can borrow my dad's for free, and that may be what I end up doing. I don't really want one too badly, though.

So, guys . . . for those of you who've hunted with these rifles, especially with more than one of them, how do they stack up against each other?
 
There's a reason guys suggest Stevens 200 and Savage rifles. Those other rifles may be fine if you have the skills and inclination to drill and tap them for scope mounts where necessary. 303 is a good calibre, but if its a scope you desire, make sure you have a way to put a proper mount on it in a usable position. Modern guns like the Stevens and Savage are a bargain for what you get. Drilled and tapped for a mount, possibly detachable magazines, aftermarket parts.
 
From what you listed, I'd use the Marlin.

Oh, Leverevolution story for you:

One bear hit in the shoulder with Leverevolution. No penetration thru the bone. I was there. Oh, and it was with .444 Marlin....
 
Everything you've listed is marginal, the Marlin maybe adequate as a 100 yd. gun for deer but if you're seriosly going to look at an all round big game rifle look at something in a 30.06 or.270. The reason people talk about the Stevens 200's is that they're a great shooting gun available in a wide range of calibres at a decent price. Army surplus rifles are as the name implies, surplus!
 
Everything you've listed is marginal, the Marlin maybe adequate as a 100 yd. gun for deer but if you're seriosly going to look at an all round big game rifle look at something in a 30.06 or.270. The reason people talk about the Stevens 200's is that they're a great shooting gun available in a wide range of calibres at a decent price. Army surplus rifles are as the name implies, surplus!

Army Surplus kills animals just as dead as an expensive "Hunting" Rifle! Great when you're on a budget!
 
Any reason for the dislike of the Stevans or Savage?

If you take out that line of your original post... that's exactly what I would have suggested because for the 500 dollars, you could almost get one with a scope.
 
I have used the 30-30 for years and would feel confident it taking shots out to 175 yrds as long as I have a good rest, never try that shot offhand. But don't discount a good used 303 0r 308 as they are as good as they get for an all around gun. I have used all types of guns for hunting but I still like my 30-30 when it is bush hunting.
 
I have wanted an army surplus rifle my whole life. That's why I likely won't buy a Stevens 200. I do realize that they are great value for the money.

When other kids my way were reading Goosebumps novels or watching cartoons I was burning my way through the massive set of Time Life World War 2 books that my local library had . . . so I guess that's why I've always wanted a surplus rifle.

I guess they are cheap enough that I could probably have one around just to have and never shoot it anyway. My wife wouldn't be impressed, but I can live with that if I have to :D.
 
With that said... start looking in the EE.

Fill that void with something that you would love to have. Get a nice .303 and be done with it. Its not really that bad on brass and even if it is, who cares, its a hunting rifle. Really, how many rounds are you going to be putting down range anyway? Mine sees about 20 a year, if its lucky. Even my go to 45-70 only sees about 150 a year.
 
I live on Vancouver Island and we have a buy sell and trade paper with a firearms section, there is always enfields in it from $50 to $500, I've got a sporterized No 1 mk 3 with iron sights, love it....but my deer gun is semi auto 30 06 with 4x-16x-50 30mm scope.
I get the buy and sell every week just to see if there are any good deals,
 
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