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so, I am seriously considering getting an accurate bolt action rifle in .223/5.56

I am not made of money, so no Coopers etc, sorry.

I am looking at something with a heavy/varmint barrel.

I will be only shooting out to 225m for the most part as that's as far as the range goes.

I want to stay with .223/5.56 as I already reload for it and like the low cost of it.


Now I have been looking at the Mossberg MVP as I have seen some surprisingly excellent results from it on this forum, its quite a bargain, it uses Stanag mags, and is chambered in 5.56.

I have a CZ452Varmint in .22lr, and so the CZ527 Varmint also is on my radar, as it is nearly identical to my .22, and the quality is obviously there.

Of course the Remington in .223 is VERY popular, and has the moddability of a Civic or Camaro, so that's nice. I am a bit confused on what each model means?

I really like the Ruger M77 Hawkeye with a heavy barrel, but its a bit more expensive and I am not sure about anything else about it.

I have heard both good and bad about Savages, but I have seen more good than bad about the 10/110 and 11/111. I like that they are moddable too, and I like that they are kind of "dark horses"

Please, discuss :)

I guess there are some other choices too. Not much for Browning, but I guess they can be good. Tikkas and Sakos etc are out of my price range I think.
 
I did a Tikka varmint with a heavy barrel. .223 with a 8" twist. If you want to shoot long with a .223 get a tight twist. I put it in an MDT chassis. The mossberg mpv comes factory in the MDT LSS chassis. I personally like the Tikka heavy barrel and action quite a bit more.
JR Hartman said:
so, I am seriously considering getting an accurate bolt action rifle in .223/5.56

I am not made of money, so no Coopers etc, sorry.

I am looking at something with a heavy/varmint barrel.

I will be only shooting out to 225m for the most part as that's as far as the range goes.

I want to stay with .223/5.56 as I already reload for it and like the low cost of it.


Now I have been looking at the Mossberg MVP as I have seen some surprisingly excellent results from it on this forum, its quite a bargain, it uses Stanag mags, and is chambered in 5.56.

I have a CZ452Varmint in .22lr, and so the CZ527 Varmint also is on my radar, as it is nearly identical to my .22, and the quality is obviously there.

Of course the Remington in .223 is VERY popular, and has the moddability of a Civic or Camaro, so that's nice. I am a bit confused on what each model means?

I really like the Ruger M77 Hawkeye with a heavy barrel, but its a bit more expensive and I am not sure about anything else about it.

I have heard both good and bad about Savages, but I have seen more good than bad about the 10/110 and 11/111. I like that they are moddable too, and I like that they are kind of "dark horses"

Please, discuss :)

I guess there are some other choices too. Not much for Browning, but I guess they can be good. Tikkas and Sakos etc are out of my price range I think.
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Personally I like the rem 700 sps if I was going with a 223, next would be a savage 10 or 12. Bolth are solid and reliable.
 
If serious about LR shooting either savage or Remington would do you fine. I am a savage fan boy myself. Never tried a Tikka but read great things. No matter what way you go get a heavy barrel and watch your twist rates. If you can find a factory 1 in 8 twist heavy that will open up bullet choices.
The savage has 1 in 9 I think.
 
thanks guys. No real long range, as like I said, range only goes to 225 or so.

I just want to be able to make tight groups with .223 rounds without breaking the bank.
 
OK here's my personal opinion! Savage model 25 with the boyds thumbhole stock. It has a medium barrel and a three lug bolt, mine shoots under 1/2 moa with Sierra 69gr and 25.6 Varget and I have targets to prove it! Guys are still impressed when I bring it out to our competitions! Price point is fantastic and you can afford great glass to go with it!
 
dh002052 said:
OK here's my personal opinion! Savage model 25 with the boyds thumbhole stock. It has a medium barrel and a three lug bolt, mine shoots under 1/2 moa with Sierra 69gr and 25.6 Varget and I have targets to prove it! Guys are still impressed when I bring it out to our competitions! Price point is fantastic and you can afford great glass to go with it!
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I run a Savage 12BTC SS heavy barrel with a stock thumbhole with the same bullet under Varget 24.1 so far with very good accuracy.. on top Sightron SIII 8-32-56 LRMOA
 
well, I am still up in the air. I like the idea of doing it with less money, and I like the idea of not being like everyone else and just getting a Remington 700.

That said, there are so many Remington 700 models out there, that its easy to customize it, lots of knowledge to aquire and easy to work with.

Also, I have been looking at the Ruger M77 Hawkeye models as well.

Now, I guess I am asking you guys to tell me the good and bad about each one.

if I get ### rifle, what will piss me off about it? Whats great about other ones?
 
+1 on he Remington 700. I've been eyeing a 700 SPS Varmint. Seems like good value. At least they were reasonably priced before the dollar went for $hit.
 
what are the differences in the different Remington 700 models? both features and quality or lack thereof? I see Remington 700 rifles from $700 to $1500 with different numbers and letters behind the 700.
 
I bought a used Savage model 12, heavy barrel stainless in 223 for my kids. Pre accustock so I bedded it including the front handguard area and free floated the barrel. Filled the butt stock with plaster and gravel for weight. It weighs about 14lbs now!! I know, over kill for a 223 however my kids don't shoot that much and when they do it's all at the range on a bench. Virtually no kick and yes, it's accurate.
I also have a Remington 700 SPS in 22-250 with a Boyds thumbhole stock (bedded that one too) and Timney trigger. It's getting more accurate the more I shoot it. Less than 1" moa.
 
JR Hartman said:
what are the differences in the different Remington 700 models? both features and quality or lack thereof? I see Remington 700 rifles from $700 to $1500 with different numbers and letters behind the 700.
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Mainly stocks and finish. The SPS have plastic stocks with a matte finish (no polishing which is time consuming and expensive). As far as I know the barrels and actions are the same. It's a good choice as there are tons of aftermarket parts and lots of quality gunsmiths who are good at accurizing them.
 
Stay away from a factory rifle. Dive into a custom build. That's what I'm doing for my .223 precision rifle.

Cadex Field OT chassis
Benchmark 1:8 Heavy contour 26"
Trigger Tech
700 SA

Easy!
 
6MT, love to, but unless you can show me where I can buy that for the price of under a grand, I have to pass for now.

again, I am going to be happy with sub MOA. People are saying that they are sub half MOA with some of these cheaper ones, and that would make me a very happy camper indeed.
 
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