Help me narrow it down...

Which of the following?

  • S&W MP9

    Votes: 25 38.5%

  • Jericho 941 9mm

    Votes: 12 18.5%

  • Jericho 941 .45ACP

    Votes: 4 6.2%

  • Kimber 1911 .45ACP

    Votes: 24 36.9%
  • Total voters
    65
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Ok, so my tax return should be good, so i'm buying myself my first handgun. i've narrowed it down to 3 choices:

S&W MP9

IWI Jericho 941 9mm or .45ACP

Kimber Custom II .45ACP

now, without starting a 9mm vs .45ACP debate, here's whay i like each one:

S&W can be bought in a package includign 2 spare mags, speed loader, holster and case. the price is low enough that withing my budget i can also afford 1500 rounds of 9mm ammo. I really like the fit and feel of them.

The Jericho, although it doesn't come with the holster and case, only comes with 1 spare mag. However, it's ###y and feels great in my hand. If i choose 9mm, i can again buy 1500 rounds, or if i go .45ACp, i can buy 1000 rounds.

The Kimber just straight up makes me horny. It's a gorgeous gun and feels natural in my hand. It is however, right on the threshold of my budget, meaning I can get the gun, but no ammo. If i get a smokin' deal, i may be able to get 500 rounds of ammo.

Keep in mind too, that this will be my first handgun, and my experience is maybe 500 rounds. So I'm a pistol newbie.

I'm leaning towards the Jericho for this reason. It would get me a decent gun that I like and feels good and more practice ammo for the budget. I can always upgrade to my dream Kimber 1911 in .45ACP later this year once I get some practice in.

Budget is $1000 - $1200.
What do you guys figure?
 
Get the Jericho in 9mm. .45 is too expensive to shoot all the time. You will be able to practice more and become a better shooter with a 9mm. I have had all guns mentioned except the Kimber. Kimber should not be your first choice if you are going to get a 1911. There are far better options. I still have my Jericho and love it. Great trigger, well built all metal gun. It is a very accurate gun. Definitely one of the best guns you can get for the money. Sold the M&P. Too many problems like the stock mags only holding 9 rounds without modding, bad slide lock location, terrible stock trigger, and it isnt the most accurate of guns. Reliable gun though and very customizable with the exchangeable backstraps. If you can, shoot them all before you buy.
 
I know its not on your list but i would suggest a cz shadow from crafm (site sponsor), comes with 3 mags and they have an awesome deal on them. I had 2 of them and they were both awesome. Just a thought
 
PharoH said:
I know its not on your list but i would suggest a cz shadow from crafm (site sponsor), comes with 3 mags and they have an awesome deal on them. I had 2 of them and they were both awesome. Just a thought
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I will second that. The Jericho is a knockoff of the CZ75 so, it will feel very near the same. I have both but, if I could only have one it would be the Shadow every day of the week. But, that stands to reason because the Shadow is like $200 more. You get a better finish, better sights, better grips, and a better trigger when compared to the Jericho. Is that worth $200? Thats up to you.
 
45ACP is very pricey and 1911 sometimes can be money pits (replacement mags, tuning etc) Not that I have anything against kimber (it probably needs less tweeking than others)

So I say go for a 9mm, voted for the IWI Jericho 941...
 
good stuff guys, keep it coming. I had never heard of the CZ75 until now. I like the looks of it and the price is right. I do want to handle one though to make sure it fits and feels right.

By all means, keep other suggestions flowing. great info here. :)
 
FlyingHigh said:
good stuff guys, keep it coming. I had never heard of the CZ75 until now. I like the looks of it and the price is right. I do want to handle one though to make sure it fits and feels right.

By all means, keep other suggestions flowing. great info here. :)
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As I said, it will feel very similar to the Jericho as the Jericho is a knockoff of it. Trust me as I own a CZ75 and a Jericho. If you like the feel of the Jericho you will like the CZ.
 
For very close to the same price as the Kimber you could get a used MP9 and Ruger 22/45 and still money left over for ammo.
If you don't reload the 22 will always be there and cheap.
 
Johnn Peterson said:
Why not 'start' out with a quality 22?? Learn and inexpensively get a grip on the fundamentals to start with. Learn to walk, then worry about running.
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eg23 said:
For very close to the same price as the Kimber you could get a used MP9 and Ruger 22/45 and still money left over for ammo.
If you don't reload the 22 will always be there and cheap.
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+1 on the .22LR for starting out.
 
i was looking at a .22LR pistol for a bit. here's where such a plan goes wrong in my opinion. i have shot pistol before, a very limited amount, but i have done it. recoil doesn't phase me at all, i have no flinch etc. i'm a very fast learner, especially when it comes to hands on skills like shooting. with good instruction i won't have a problem learning the basics and improving myself.

and one of the biggest reasons, i'd get bored too fast with a .22LR. with no challenge of controlling recoil, i'd be starting to shoot too fast and if anything would rush through the practice, totally defeating the purpose of starting with a .22LR.

starting with a 9mm would force me to focus more on technique, thus keeping me from blazing through rounds. i did this with rifle, learning to shoot with a 7mm Rem Mag, and then buying a .22.

maybe i'm bass ackwards, weird and/or out to lunch, but i feel that although a .22LR would be a fun toy, it wouldn't help me to build the basics due to the lack of challenge.
 
I'm all for buying the pistol that blows your skirt up, never really felt the need to start with a .22. I've owned .22 pistols, but went through a bunch before finding one or two that I liked. However, I've also never felt that I outgrew the rimfire. Cheap to shoot yes. Minimal recoil yes. Just as much of a challenge to shoot well as a "real" caliber though. I don't get bored with my S&W 17 or Colt .22 conversions.

Maybe I'm bass ackwards!

I'd buy a Springfield or Colt in .45 or a Hi Power in 9mm before the choices you listed (hey, you posted the question, you're going to get suggestions outside of what you're looking at :D)
 
Owning a 22 handgun and rifle for that matter is much more than just learning to handle recoil. It's cheap so you can shoot more and work on the fundamentals of shooting. Trigger squeeze, sight alignment, follow through and so on. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one in the world that believes that a 22 caliber firearm is an indispensable learning tool when it comes to shooting.
As for just "blazing away" with a 22, well no offense but once I get going with my 9mm I'm I could keep up to you and your 22. Just saying, practice is the most important element to becoming a good shooter and I and many others can thank the lonely 22 for that.

In the end get what you want, it's your money. Get both and be happy as can be. Good luck on your search.
 
^ Ok lets assume (very comfortably in this case) that as Gunnut with over 2000 posts (yes he may be a armchair QB but again i'm comfortable assuming otherwise) he's got some skill with a shooting' iron even if it is Long guns. All this "start with a .22" BS has to stop. Yes you can shoot a f*ck ton more of .22 BUT you DO NOT need to start with a .22 to be a good great, or even amazing shooter. If FH had asked for recommendations of a .22 that'd be different but he VERY CLEARLY specified 3 guns he is looking at, none of which include a .22.

Get the gun (of the three) that you want. It really doesn't matter which of the ones you get FH as long as its the 1911 :p

Seriously though, I have a M&P 9 and have much experience through shooting my friends Kimber 1911 (i have my own but its a colt). The kimber is a sweet piece of kit, pricey but its quality also. The M&P has been a good gun but its night an day compared to a 1911 IMO (which is the only one that matters dontchya know). And, just to please the limpwristed pea plinkers, you can get yourself a kimber .22 kit and shoot to your hearts content.
 
I think it's better to have some more rounds down range experience before picking your first handgun (unless it's .22, cuase not much to it)
and more the 500, preferably with different calibres...some would say to sart off with lesser kicking/recoil gun for first gun, I'm not one of them

My first wast a Colt 1991A1 .45 (1911), But I did have over 1000 rnds down range of various guns (rental from club & other members guns) before buying it..
Also, CZ 75 was almost my 1st gun, but the 1911 won me over...

My suggestion is keep shooting and try to shoot other members guns to try variety and getting a little more experience and then choose what you like (and read up on various brands too)
some suggestions, as others have stated:

- CZ 75 shadow (also other variations available)

- 1991 brand of any reputable name, I'd recommend the STI Trojan or Spartan in 9mm or .40 cal. I love my .45, but pricy to shoot lots of it.., so .40 is good to, if you want bit more bang. and STI seems to offer the better gun for the $$ (inc. internal upgraded parts,etc.)

- M & P I hear is good, never shot one, but seems very popular and good review..

- glock 17 9mm is always good, but one of those things, like most guns anyways, it has to feel right in your hands.. try to shoot one...

- Sigs are great guns.... they make a good 1911 model as well.. not sure if comes in .40 ?

.45 is still an option, if you really like it, but if $$ is not plenty full for you... and you want to shoot alot, then consider the 9mm or .40 (9 is cheapest)

Also depends on if you're going to get involved in IDPA OR IPSC, or other forms of shooting disciplines and if so, better to have idea of which one, so you pick a gun better suited for such.. if no clue yet and not concerned with it, then no worries... buy what you like to shoot and feels good in your hands.

Don't rush and make right choice
 
It sounds as though the OP is on a tight budget as far as ammo goes..re-loading can take care of that. I bought a gun that shoots .45Colt ammo and then found out that it costs about a dollar a round so re-loading was the only option for me. For the price of 1000 rounds of .45ACP you can get the equipment and supplies to re-load your own and if you cast your own bullets the cost per round drops dramatically. My cost per round is about ten cents or 1/10th the cost of factory ammo and re-loading is fun in a mundane sort of way.
 
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