help me with a Norinco understanding

ed.griffin123

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Yes, yes, I know, do not buy a norinco...however, I am trying to buy one. Perople tell me stay away from the government model, but the stores online just list such things as "1911 A1 45 acp etc? what guns are not the government model. I am also looking for the 5 in barrel? Help!
 
Not sure why anyone would tell you to stay away from the gov. model, it's their best one. The unmarked ones from Canada ammo are made to spec and feature all forged parts and frame. I've heard the newer ones contain cast/mim internals.
 
Not sure why anyone would tell you to stay away from the gov. model, it's their best one. The unmarked ones from Canada ammo are made to spec and feature all forged parts and frame. I've heard the newer ones contain cast/mim internals.

Someone said the Government ones have low profile sights and do not shoot as well....not sure?
 
^^^^^ agree completely....great affordable pistol...fo front sight, black rear, American legend grips....love it
 
I just bought a Norinco Government model from Canadammo and it is a great pistol for $299.99.

The finish is better than what I have read in the various forums. Things that you may need to be aware of:

1. Sights are basic, may need a little touch up of white paint for the 3 dot sight system.
2. It will be covered in grease (sealed in a plastic bag). You'll need to clean it up.
3. The slide to frame will be a little slightly rough out of the box but once you clean it up, it will be good. Also, keep in mind, after several rounds it will break in.
4. The grips are not the best, I replaced mine using my SAM commander grips since I upgraded that to a Hogue grip.
5. A little slide to frame rattle can be heard but that's a 1911 :)

The barrel on it is really good. Barrel bushing is fairly tight.

Taking it t a basic field strip is easy, and a full disassembly is a cinch. I watched this video a couple of times - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TklQU_aRHaQ

The model that I got after I did a complete disassembly revealed that the sear spring is coloured burgundy/reddish. It is a good spring.

The extractor is also the same colour - did some googling... it turns reddish due to the nature of the metal used.

The sear/disconnector needs a better finish but once you clean it up, it has a good break when pulling the trigger. Reset is good as well.
 
I had a Sport model, and the finish and accuracy was excellent. I also had on of the CanAm specials, and it was so inaccurate I couldn't hit the target from 5 yards, seriously bad. It was tight, and perfect function, perhaps the link thingy had an issue. Sold it cheap. But I am a huge Norinco fan, it didn't sour me on them. I just got another in 9mm, really nice finish, haven't tried it yet.
T
 
i found the only rattle was the grip safety. a little bit of bending the spring for the grip and rattle is gone.
I have the government model. couldnt shoot $hit at first but then realized it was the awesome power of the .45 that was too overwhelming :)
After some practice it shoots very well. (better than most shooters can make use of out of box)
is the trigger as good as a kimber or other 1000$ gun? no. will you notice? yes. but only because we told you it wasnt as good.
 
I've got a few of the unmarked 1911's from Canada Ammo and like them well enough. They are good to work on if you want to turn them into a project too. Mine needed a bit of smoothing out when I got them, lots of sharp edges on them. They're the only 1911's I own, but I've shot a few Rugers and Kimbers though. The Norinco 1911's aren't as nice, but they also start at 1/3 or 1/4 the price of the nicer ones.
Kristian
 
Norc 1911...I only had an early one where the slide wasn't fit to the barrel ( starting 70 serial#). All my others (plenty) are straight shooters,and with some parts and patience you can make them shoot like a 900 dollar gun. If your serial# starts with BA or 90, you're good to go...All unmarked canam ones start with 90. BA's are norinco marked and a little more fancy.
Of course,everybody hates norinco...wouldn't you if you buy a $1000 gun for the fancy name and half of it is cast, and the guy with the 300 dollar norc with a $150 upgrade shoots just as good and all is forged and lasts?

CG
 
Gee, at the price they have them for why would you buy one? BUY TWO!! Yes, the sights are a bit basic, but they work fine. I've yet to find one that doesn't shoot well. If you like to work on guns you can use them as learners with out fear of damaging an expensive gun and with a bit of tuning they can be as good as any 1911.
 
ive no regrets with all the Norc's ive purchased over the years.
they introduced me to the 1911 platform (on the cheap) and allowed me to learn how to disassemble and reassemble and scratch and dent and customize without worry.

now i know my way around the 1911 with my eyes closed and i can repair the majority of the problems with that gun because of my years with my Norc's.

for the price they are the cheapest way to get into and learn the platform.

they also made me appreciate the craftsmanship of my higher end 1911's a HELL of a lot more!
 
is the trigger as good as a kimber or other 1000$ gun? no. will you notice? yes. but only because we told you it wasnt as good

The truthiness of this is absolute. I was intending on buying a Norinco Government model but at the last minute also tried a Kimber. A grand later...

Let that be a lesson the OP...if you don't want to spend a lot of money, stay focused on the Norinco line! :)
 
I have a tuned Norc "Compact" (Commander) that I shoot for shizzles and giggles now and then, it's had the sights done (Novak Competiton) a safety installed and a trigger and throat job. Result? Shoots as well as any Commander length gun and better than many. About an extra $250 on top of the gun, easily the shooting equal of a Colt, Kimber, STI, or Springer.
 
As others have stated this is a good gun for the money. I had to de-burr the sharp edges and replace the trigger, sear and grips. Shoots very well and I have loads of fun with it. The biggest improvement was a new trigger and sear. The original trigger pull was 8+ pounds and now is about 4-5 pounds and breaks clean with a new Ed Brown competition sear. I have more fun with this one than my Springfield Armory 1911 race gun (+$1,000).
 
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