Help! My Beretta 92 is giving me problems

[COREY]

Howdy All,

Well I had my Beretta 92 F out to the range the other day and it was having problems. This pistol has about 500 rounds through it, give or take, for reference.

I had it at the range in August and it would not cycle properly; somtimes it would cycle correctly, sometimes it wood stovepipe, and sometimes it would not even eject the empty case. I had a recoil buffer guide rod in it and a Millet front sight that applied a bit of pressure on the barrel for accuracy. It did this with a reload that I was trying for the first time, but it also did it with the Winchester white box ammo I had on hand.

After this problem, I removed the sights and installed an LPA rear sight using the standard front sight; I also removed the recoil buffer guide rod and put the standard steel one back in. I also took a degreaser to the rails and made sure that any built up oil was cleaned away. The previous owner shot a box of ammo through it in 10 years, and then just oiled the piss out of it. When I got it, it would cycle properly in cold weather until I took degreaser to the rails and got the old oil out.

I took it to the range again, and it continued to do the same thing. I had a friend try it that has shot this pistol before and he had the same problem; the limp wrist possibility is no longer a consideration. I noticed that when we manually cylced the action, it was popping the brass about 2 ft to the right, right next to the brass that actually ejected on its own.

Would any of you have any idea what may be wrong with it? I was thinking it could be a bad batch of ammo, but I am unsure. Any help you could give me would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Corey

 

[Corey3]

Hey, I have a Beretta 92 as well. Luckily mine is 100%.

 

[v65magnafan]

My Beretta .40 Elite II ejects brass a lot more than two feet.

It's shot at least a thousand rounds and I've never had a problem--and this is with various factory loads and ammo I load myself.

 

[canuckgunny]

Howdy All,
Would any of you have any idea what may be wrong with it?
Corey

Well, may well have something to do with the tinkering? I don't really understand what you have had done there? That barrel is free floating on the front end for a reason... to explain all I'll say is take the barrel out of the slide, and stick it into the frame. Now start applying pressure for no good reason. Won't work very well. Also don't over look those rails when cleaning, they are just as important to maintain as the 'main' rails. Check that your wedge is free and clear too. Some guys use various bushings and such on the front end, but I wouldn't recomend it. These are not designed as overly 'accurate' pistols, but you may have the only 'unreliable' one. I've only ever seen 92 trouble due to 1) limp wristing or 2) light loads. Should we add a third 3) non factory adjustments? A light load will also cause what you are referring to. Berettas are designed for uber hot rounds. I'll bet dimes to dollars if you put it to factory specs and dump in some hotties it'll work perfectly. Failures to eject (assuming your extractor, ejector are in order) come from a lack of force pulling the casing out at sufficient speed- far enough- to hit the ejector. Either your hand is absorbing the momentum (limpwristing)or it doesn't have enough in the first place (lightload/2heavyspring) or the energy is wasted due to friction (dirtygun). Anyone got another reason?
Sorry I coundn't help more.

 

[IM_Lugger]

the only time I had the same problem is when I used under loaded box of ammo. I was using BlueDot for the first time...

I made 100 rounds, shot 50 in my Steyr and it was jamming like crazy so I figured the gun doesn't like the load and decided to shoot the other 50 in my 92FS since the gun has never failed with any type of ammo /reloads.
But right off the bet it started jamming (FTF and FTE), than I noticed that after I fired the gun I didn't see the case getting ejected, I pulled the slide and the case was still there. It became pretty clear that the ammo is not strong enough to cycle the gun reliably (the recoil was very light). I also had 100 more rounds of reloads with me that time (same bullet, same OAL, higher charge) after half way thru (of under loaded ammo) I shot the 100 and had ZERO malfunctions! I decided to shot the rest of the faulty ammo since I didn’t throw it out (it wasn't light enough to lodge the bullet in the barrel) and again it jammed every few rounds. That was the ONLY time the gun jammed in a few thousand rounds and clearly due to the ammo…

I would remove all mods that you did clean it and try again with factory (or properly loaded) ammo. It could be that recoil spring is too heavy. Since something is obviously effecting slide cycling.

 

[capp325]

Well, it seems that you have already reversed your mods, so as long as the problems you described occur with factory ammo it would seem that there is an issue with the gun itself. Judging from what you said about the cases ejecting two feet away from the gun - the same distance as when the gun is cycled by hand - you have an ejector problem. When the gun is in full recoil, the empty case hits the ejector hard, which causes it to get ejected further then when the gun is cycled by hand. Check to make sure that it is not broken, loose, or otherwise out of spec.

 

[mebiuspower]

I had a recoil buffer guide rod in it and a Millet front sight that applied a bit of pressure on the barrel for accuracy.

I sorta cringed a bit when I read that.

If the gun only has 500 rds like you said, did you try to do a field strip and properly clean & oil the gun? Did you remove the extractor and clean the inside? There could be some gunk inside where the extractor sits.

Mine has gone though probably 7-8K rounds by now and the only thing that I replaced on mine was the recoil spring, and I didn't have to replace it as the gun was still working fine.

 

[Slavex]

I had the same Millets on my old 9mm years back. make sure the nylon feet are still there, and it's not metal on metal rubbing.
next check your locking block, make sure it's moving freely and is lubed properly. Take your extractor out, clean behind it, and put it back. check the decocking levers and such on the frame (slide off) and make sure they are moving freely as well. Check the recoil spring, find out if it's original or extra power.

 

[Big JD-From the hills]

You want some lubrication on the slide rails, don't leave them dry. Guy at our range had a 92fs and left the rails dry, and it was having problems, when lubed it was 100%.