Help needed (again)! Can you ID these Bolts and Bayonets?

james01

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Getting to the last of my late Dads stuff I will be selling here on the EE.

I need help to ID and value these so I can post the ads and represent them properly.

These are a mystery to me, although I was told the big one is from a Lee Enfield #1 mark 4?? I think? but can't quite remember (I should have written it down, R005ter!:)).

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Top Bayo is stamped on right side of handle:
Ross Rifle Co.
Quebec
Patented 1907
left side are the numbers 08 (and looks like 7-10)
Nothing on blade

2nd from top
On Blade is stamped a crown symbol, and under that; 1907 Wilkinson
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Bottom Bayonet
My French is terrible, but I will try to repeat what is inscribed on the blade that is pictured;
Mre d. Ormes de L(?)Etiesme O(?)loul 1880

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Are these of any value? I can't really figure out the caliber from the headstamps.
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These pistol bullets are stamped 38 S&W, but instead of lead, they look like paper bullets. Any ideas?? Are these blanks for training?
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I know this is an angle sight (Clinometer) for a Vickers Water Cooled Machine Gun, but have no idea of value. I tried asking here before ages ago, but had no luck then. Now??
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Any and all help valuing these is greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance guys!!

James
 
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Here is what I could pick out in any event.

Bolts:

The one with the bolt handle all the way back is a bolt for a Lee Enfield No 4 Mk I.

Bayonets:

1. Ross bayonet ?
2. British Pattern 1907 bayonet for SMLE. I cannot make out the year of make of your particular blade. The month and year would be stamped just above "Wilkinson". The month looks to be "10" so that would be October but the year to the right is rubbed off.
3. French Gras bayonet

Ammo - Rifle:

The ammo in the british stripper clips (the ones with the holes on them) is .303 ammo for British rifles like the SMLE and No 4. Yours is Dominion Arms of Canada made in 1926 (from the one head stamp photo you posted) and is Mark VII ball ammo.

The one stripper clip in the top left of the picture appears to be mauser related ammo and I am going to guess either 7x57mm or 8x57mm. A close up of the head stamp may yield more information.

This ammo looks be in fair condition so if you do plan to shoot it, evaluate the head stamps closely and inspect the rounds to make sure they are no cracks in the casing.

Ammo - Pistol:

They look like wood blanks ? You are right though, 38 S & W ammo.

Hope this helps.
 
Paper bt ammo is shot loaded.
Top clip looks like 30-06.
Bts
Ross MkI
P1907 for SMLE
French Gras M1874
 
Gras Model 1874 reads:

Manufacture d'Armes de St-Etienne Août 1880

St-Etienne Arms Factory August 1880
 
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