Help needed location Parker Bros Shotguns

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Sharps45-70

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Hey all,

I am having a hard time tracking down a really nice Parker Brothers shotgun. Seems just about every store in Canada that has a website either has nothing or the ones they do have are crap or have Damascus (not that I'm against Damascus, I just have several of those already and want a nitro gun for a little more convenience :p).

I am looking for a GH grade or higher in very good or excellent condition, must be mechanically sound and in 12 gauge (2 3/4" is preferable). Smokeless, long barrels; so about 30" and chokes don't matter too much. No modifications like recoil pads or what have you. I am willing to pay fair market value for the right shotgun.

I am also not against Cogswell and Harrison, Webley and Scott or other higher end English makes fitting the same criteria.

I don't really know where to turn on this one as I have exhausted all options I can think of :( so if you guys know someone or could point me in the right direction that would be a massive help!

Thanks for any help you can give me
 
If you are willing to buy from the States, Prophet River can import it for you. I have done it twice and Clay was awesome. There are sites like Gunbroker, GunsAmerica and GunsInternational that post lots of Shotguns. Good luck in your search.
 
I have considered that and would for sure take that route if our dollar wasn't so bad :/ I constantly drool over the selection they have down there!
 
Consign - Parker Bros - 12Ga/30" - SXS - Wd/Bl, ejectors, customized buttstock - $1800

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Don't know if this helps you or not, but Prophet River can import for you if you want as well.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...Consign-42-Listed-Lots-of-shotguns-just-added!!

They have some high dollar stuff in that thread on consign...
 
Umm, interesting to me you say you want a Parker, then say you wouldn't object to a Coggie or a Webley & Scott. Potentially very different things, with pricing driven by different aims in the marketplace.

So I have to ask, what are you really looking for? A good condition, step up from field grade Parker, a serviceable English game gun, something with a brand name you know of? Any quality SxS? Something you can shoot modern shells in? I ask these questions sincerely.
 
I suppose everything really. My number one objective is a Parker but I would not be objected to other quality guns in the same price bracket that I can shoot modern target and game loads in. I can find other shotguns in the marketplace but since Parkers were my primary objective and I can't find one anywhere in very good original condition, so I came to the forums asking for some help :\

From my understanding, a Coggie is quite an excellent London made gun from my research so that is why I mentioned it. I know they are very different in the marketplace, both being excellent guns but one with much more of a collector's aspect. To be honest I just like the look and feel of Parkers more...

I am going to a gun show this weekend so maybe someone will have something or know of someone there :p
 
Sharps, if you shoot modern loads with standard pressures, which is what you will be shooting if you use modern target and game loads, you run the risk of damaging the gun and, while the odds are slim, possibly yourself.

The most common and most likely damage that is caused by shooting modern loads in older guns is cracking and breaking the stock due to wood that has shrunk over the years so the contact points between the metal of the receiver and the wood of the stock have been reduced in surface area such that the recoil force is concentrated into a very small area. Just about guarantees breakage. Add to that the oil weakened wood and it won't be long before you are sending the gun and a pile of dough to a stock maker to get the gun repaired.

Less likely but possible if the barrels are in poor shape or have been honed too many times are blown barrels and the subsequent possibility of personal injury. The odds of this happening are roughly the same whether Damascus or fluid steel. It's the current condition of the barrels that counts, not their original methods of construction. In fact, when both types were in common usage together, Damascus was the higher cost option.

This is true for any old gun. Parker, Fox, Coggie, Scott or Purdey for that matter.....you name it. And by "old gun" I am generally referring to anything built before WWII although the immediate post war guns are now getting a bit long in the tooth.

So if your objective is to buy a nice old gun you can shoot modern loads in, you will be disappointed by how quickly the gun breaks down.

There are partial solutions, BTW. A complete re-stocking will eliminate the gaps in wood to metal contact, spreading the recoil forces appropriately. So will a proper re-finish of the wood that includes glass bedding. But your barrels, if made prior to 1925, were likely not designed for modern pressure levels and even if you address the wood issues, the rest of the gun wasn't made for that kind of pounding.
 
Thank you for the insight but I am aware of what you are saying. By modern target load, I am referring to strictly smokeless low pressure modern loadings by rst for instance. The other issues you address such as barrel honing would not be an issue with the right gun as I have zero intention of buying something that has been knowingly honed.
 
FLHTCUI said:
Why go to the states if you can find one here https://www.reliablegun.com/en/used...zzle-chamber-and-frame-manufactured-1900-1901 .

I'm not sure if this is nitro proof for smokeless powder, but it is from a site sponsor.
Rob
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That gun is not an original CH Parker ,seems to be a mismatch of parts ,stock is not original and poorly fitted ,the vent rib bbls are desireable to some but not original to this gun ....according to the serial number provided on the tang ,it was a 30 "damascus barrels GHE grade with a capped pistol grip stock .

if that gun was an original CHE trap configuration ,3500 would be a steal ...this gun unfortunately is a gun composed of parts and worth no where near the the asking price .

But like they say half the fun is in looking,and when you have helpful cgner's from all corners of the country helping to look it shouldn't take long.

Good luck ,
Chris
 
Sharps45-70

I have 4 sale an English SxS Shotgun of high quality , extra features & excellent original condition .

Wm. Atkinson & Sons ( made circa 1920)
Boxlock with auto Ejectors
12 ga. x 2 5/8" ( could be reamed to 2 3/4" or just use Kent ammo.)
NITRO Proofed for 1 1/8 oz. loads
Double triggers & fully engraved .
Fitted : vintage oak & leather luggage case , with all the tools etc.
All original , in great shape , everything working as it should .
Pictures available . ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Frank
 
cjdawe said:
That gun is not an original CH Parker ,seems to be a mismatch of parts ,stock is not original and poorly fitted ,the vent rib bbls are desireable to some but not original to this gun ....according to the serial number provided on the tang ,it was a 30 "damascus barrels GHE grade with a capped pistol grip stock .

if that gun was an original CHE trap configuration ,3500 would be a steal ...this gun unfortunately is a gun composed of parts and worth no where near the the asking price .

But like they say half the fun is in looking,and when you have helpful cgner's from all corners of the country helping to look it shouldn't take long.

Good luck ,
Chris
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Well Blow Me down..........
Rob
 
You might try some of the US sites like Steve Barnett Guns or Puglisi Gun Emporium and have Prophet River import for you.
Higher grade Parkers, A.H. Foxes et al are highly collectable in vg. to excel. original condition and have become fairly scarce, particularly in the smaller gauges.
Canadian $ notwithstanding, be prepared to pay $$$$.
You might also try joining the Parker Collectors Association and place a WTB.
 
Quality pafkers R easy to find just open your wallet between 2kand4k and u will own one along with many other nice sxs's a nice model23 winchester or even a model 21 I found a gorgous vhe Parker for only $2.100.00 anything can be had if u spend some money thier is no other way to get one and u won't find it listed with the mossbergs and remi's one EE today if I was looking for a Parker I would spend the money and buy a reproduction beautiful guns I passed on a 20ga with a English stock a couple of yrs ago for $2.300.00 what was I thinking I still have sleepless nights over that one
 
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^^

What he said!

Once in a blue moon you might luck into a barn find. But really, there are lots of these available.....at the going market rate.
 
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