help - New Marlin 795 chipped from dealer

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Hello Nutters,

Need some help to determine how serious the problem is. I picked up my new rifle today from Le Baron (mail order). When I opened it up at home, I heard some rattling in the receiver. I immediately took it apart and noticed a crescent shaped metal shaving. :eek: It looks like it came off between the receiver and barrel. Is this going to affect accuracy? How serious is this?

Also, has this gun been fired before. It is black near the chamber, inside the receiver. The feed ramp is black too!!! Don't know if this is normal (dirty grease), or whether it has been fired. Looks like someone had some fun with it before they shipped it off to me!

Trying to upload images from my PC (how do you guys do that?)
 
Gonna have to see it, if it's a shaving... nothing too serious. If it's a chip (which is extremely unlikely) It could be pretty serious. But remember these guns are threaded into the action, not pinned, so im thinking it could be part of the tapped out aluminum from the receiver if it is crescent and "v" shaped.

Dont worry about the black near the barrel. Could have been test fired at the factory.
 
Photo's can be uploaded easily if you have a photobucket acct. If not it takes a couple mins to open an acct. Once you do, you just copy/paste the IMG code.
 
Thanks guys, you are life savers. I am working on getting pictures uploaded for you right now. Never uploaded any images to CGN yet.
 
Here are some images, hope this works!

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Jeez... I hate to say it but it looks like you were sold a gun someone has already returned. That has DEFINATELY been shot before, and not just a factory test shot. It's dirty... Also, whats worse is the action has infact chipped off... I've never seen one do that before, but the only way i could see it happening is if it wasnt threaded all the way through for the barrel, and when it was screwed in it pushed a chip out.

Either way... not cool. Unfortunately you are going to have to get in touch with LeBaron, that gun needs to go back in the box right now and get sent back to them.

Sorry to hear this man... i know you had reservations about buying a marlin because of quality issues, but i can assure you, this is by no means "normal" for marlin/remlin, or anyone else for that matter. This looks like a lebaron problem to me.
 
I can't believe they sold me a used gun. I new it looked too dirty for a test fire. It's also strange that it's a North Haven, CT. It must have been sitting in the Montreal shop for a long time before they shipped it off to me. In your experience, will Le Baron pay to have it shipped back and refund my shipping fee? I'm so pissed at them right now!
 
"J" man said:
I can't believe they sold me a used gun. I new it looked too dirty for a test fire. It's also strange that it's a North Haven, CT. It must have been sitting in the Montreal shop for a long time before they shipped it off to me. In your experience, will Le Baron pay to have it shipped back and refund my shipping fee? I'm so pissed at them right now!
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I dont have personal experience with lebaron, but i have heard several bad things about customer service... others may chime in. IMHO they should eat all the costs from here on in. It sure looks used though... i could be wrong, but it looks that way. As for the chip in the action, it might not cause any function problems, but i'd be worried about fractures runnung through the rest of the action. I'd be pissed also.

Not much you can do except contact lebaron, maybe e-mail them pics of the gun and make it clear that you haven't even fired it yet. Good luck, i feel your pain. There is nothing worse than the having the excitement of picking up a new gun crushed to find out it has issues... it's becoming more and more of a common occourence lately.

If it were me, i'd try to clean that black out... if it wont come off, it could just be dark staining of some sort and not fouling. it's hard to tell just by the pictures. If you can clean it out it is fouling and a returned gun. But if it wont, i'd want to return it and focus only on the fact that it is broken. I wouldn't appear pissy to the customer service people, just stay cool as a cucumber and tell them the gun they shipped you is broken... period. You want a different one and want them to eat the return and follow up shipping costs. Calling and being ornary will likely make them put you to the bottom of the priorities pile.
 
The feed ramp looks to have a rub line on it as well. Which wouldn't happen with a couple of test shells being run through it. The amount of carbon residue left inside the receiver would be caused by a fair amount of ammo being fired as well. I would contact them explain your concerns over it being used when you paid for a "new" rifle and teell them it needs to be replaced.
If they give you any issues let them know you'll be in touch with the authorities for being sold a used gun as new. Also know as fraud . Tell them because of this you expect them to pay for return shipping or at least extend you a store credit to cover your return costs and pay for shipping of the replacement rifle.

I don't deal with LeBarons if I don't have to. Their always busy when they aren't busy if you know what I mean. Half the time they don't have what I want in stock either. The only thing good is their no tax sale.
 
Thanks for the support guys. I plan on contacting the owner at the Markham location regarding this. It is definitely fouling, and not a stain. I managed to smudge a bit off with my finger. This is total bull crap. By authorities, do you mean a special dept., or police in general?

Maybe I should've went to the Salvation army and got a better deal.

On a side not, Le Baron did send me a candy cane with a fishing lure to show their appreciation to customers for selling them a used firearm.
 
Wrong Way said:
Call the CFC with the serial # and see if it's been previously registered.....they wont tell you to who, but they'll let you know if it's been registered to a private person previously. If it was sold/used before, it'll be in the system.
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Really good idea. I'd do this before jumping to any conclusions, that way you know 100% if it is used or not. They cant argue if you have proof.
 
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I just had my new 795 out to the range on Sunday. As a comparison, mine looked like it had never been fired at all. After 75 rounds through mine at the range, it still looks cleaner than yours. That piece out of the receiver may not cause any feeding issues based on where it is, but by all means it isn`t right. Good luck on the phone calls, and please let us know how you make out.
 
If I was you, I woud take it back and ask for a refund. Then go to Sail and get one. They are selling them for 124.00 with Sail picking up the HST.
 
"J" man:
I suspect your problem might be with Marlin. I buddy at may workplace received a Marlin from Cabela's that was no good(fit/finish). They took it back.
My buddy told me the factory is closing and production will be shifted to a new location(the remaining workers are not happy). Don't know if this is true on not. I would start by pointing out the QC problems with your rifle, before bringing up anything else. Best of luck
 
I'm definitely calling the CFC in the morning to inquire about any previous owners before I give Le Baron a call. I'm not even going to talk to the mail order dept. until I talk to the owner down at the Markham location. I will keep you guys posted.
 
bigguy1 said:
If I was you, I woud take it back and ask for a refund. Then go to Sail and get one. They are selling them for 124.00 with Sail picking up the HST.
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I was going to go there first before I ordered from Le Baron, but I called and they didn't have any in stock last week. Do they have some in stock now?
 
The chip looks like it came from the threaded part of the receiver the barrel is threaded thru. could be a factory booboo as the barrel pushed that chip out when it threaded in. Remember it looks like pot metal or aluminum. very soft .
 
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