Help! Trying to reducd recoil for a small framed woman

VictoryXC said:
I have to ask why you have her shooting 3" Black Cloud shells???
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Sorry, I left a little info out in my OP. She want's to hunt birds this fall as we just spent an entire year gun training our golden retriever. Ducks open up in a few weeks and she wants to come out with us. No matter where I look, I can't seem to find 2 3/4" steel shotgun shells...
 
She was a beginner and doing well with standard target loads, why would you switch her to heavy recoiling 3" magnums? Go back to the standard 7/8oz target loads and let her build proficiency and confidence, keep the shooting sessions short and fun. Not being used to it, she will tire quickly and start missing and develop bad habits if you push her too hard. Be thankful she tried it and enjoyed it, don't mess up the good start that you have going by going macho on her. If hunting is your goal, 7/8 oz loads in a 20 are great for upland game and the prefeered load of many. If geese are eventually on the agenda and that pump gun is the tool of choice, save the heavy loads for that purpose only, they won't be noticed in the excitement, but switching her to a gas operated 12 gauge with 2 3/4" steel will be better. A guy might be excited and impressed by a hard kicking gun, women aren't.
 
canvasback said:
The answer to her problem is in your first paragraph. Why would you switch her to 3" Black Clouds? To shoot clays????

Recoil is a function of weight of the gun, weight of the ejecta and the speed that ejecta is accelerated to. Physics.

It can be mitigated by the action of a semi, by limbsaver type pads and by ensuring proper fit. But one way or another, it's happening. The only way to add a Limbsaver and not change the LOP is to cut the stock. The Limbsaver needs room to work.

Save the 3" heavier loads for when she is actually hunting, when the adrenaline rush masks the recoil hit.
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This!!!

Here is my other half enjoying her new Beretta A400 Xplor 20ga. We took the time to measure and fit the gun to her. We needed to shorten the lop 3/4", adjust the cast and raise the comb 5mm which was achieved through the supplied drop and cast shims. Then it was check the poa vs poi on paper and off to the range. To date she has shot two flats of target loads since july and only 150 of those through her new gun. She had never fired a shotgun until last fall and that was at 5 stationary targets(with target loads). She will be joining us this fall for waterfowl and there is a case of steel shot hunting loads in the cabinet for that purpose and in 2 3/4" 7/8oz loads of steel 4's. Plenty of cannon fodder for ducks over decoys. Why knock her around with 3" and risk her not wanting to enjoy the sport with you?
Here is a clip from last evening after the final fitting of her gun trying it out at singles trap which she is absolutely loving and now wants to buy an ATA membership for the 2020 season!

https://youtu.be/K70LwpEUls0
 
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gobigorgohome said:
Sorry, I left a little info out in my OP. She want's to hunt birds this fall as we just spent an entire year gun training our golden retriever. Ducks open up in a few weeks and she wants to come out with us. No matter where I look, I can't seem to find 2 3/4" steel shotgun shells...
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Sheps Sports here in Lloyd has 1 flat remaining of 2 3/4"'steel 20 gauge loads. I just bought the second last flat yesterday. I do believe Clay has some in stock at Prophet River as well?
 
Trade for a semi-auto?

canvasback said:
It can be mitigated by the action of a semi, by limbsaver type pads and by ensuring proper fit. But one way or another, it's happening. The only way to add a Limbsaver and not change the LOP is to cut the stock. The Limbsaver needs room to work.
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When starting with beginner shot gun shooter ,already established she can hit targets with a out of box gun .Now there is proper gun fitment to take into consideration ,how its held ,and a proper stance where she can roll with the recoil and not be absorbing the full recoil, which all are important to have an enjoyable outing .
 
She needs a lot more trigger time on lighter loads. Like hundreds of loads. Shoot a few boxes whenever you have time. Dont even bother with hunting loads until you go hunting.

Also standard steel as opposed to Black Cloud. And add a limbsaver or other reputable recoil pad.

I dont agree with all the "get a semi" posts. Its by a far the least practical answer to your question.
 
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