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So I posted a while ago that I would be inheriting some firearms from my family, and the first few are in my possession now. Unfortunately, my knowledge on firearms doesn't run that deep. So I'm hoping some of you fine folks can help me identify exactly what I have here, are the firearms any good, and possibly some values for insurance purposes. All firearms appear to be in solid condition to the layman's eyes. All of them have seen regular use.

Here's a photo of the lot of them:

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From top to bottom:


First is my grandfathers side-by-side 20Ga. shotgun. No stamp for a serial, so it's from before the requirements. it's labeled as a 'Stevens Model 311, Savage Arms"

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Next down is a Lakefield .22 Mark II bolt. This was bought in the mid-late 90's if I remember correctly.

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Then we a .308 of unknown origin. It was bought by my father back in the 90's from my uncle, but the history previous to that is fuzzy. It's a BNP stamped, British .308 WIN Majestic. I'm assuming that's a Winchester? But the barrel stamp shows "Birmingham Small Arms"

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Next is my fathers old pump 12Ga. bought back in the late 60's or early 70's. Labeled as a "Model 37 Featherlight, 12Ga. 2 3/4, Ithaca"

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Finally I have my fathers old 30-06 that he refinished the stock on. Too bad, as I like the original dark stock. It was bought by him some time in the early 70's I think. It's labeled as a "C-I-L Model 950C, Montreal Canada", but stamped "Made in the USA". A little research says this may have been a Savage import that was restamped? But I'm not sure.

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Thanks in advance for any information!
 
Well you pretty much nailed it however the 'Birmingham' labelled is not a winchester...it is a BSA Majestic in .308 Winchester calibre they are all very decent firearms except the 311 (imo)...had one and it locked up on the first box of shells....although being a 20g is nice .....mine was 12g
There seems to be an increased appreciation of BSA rifles and ithaca is a classic with bottom eject...yours looks good. And the 950 is essentially a Savage...which is all good
 
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Well you seem to have identified them pretty well, the laughable exception is the BSA but I'll forgive you for that one because you're from the Port and you have a pink duvet.
 
Oh yes.. and I think you have the original Parker Hale rings on the BSA ... dont separate them from the rifle as they will probably have a little dowel specially designed to engage a round recess on the rifle base... while they used to be pretty common ... they seem to be less so these days. They are a good setup.
 
One little tidbit.....the Savage 311's were a low end shotgun...usually shotguns have a series of *** under the forestock, denoting the barrels choke. Savage 311's dont.....if the gun is 26"barrels it will be choked I/C and Mod, if it has 28 or 30" barrels it would be Mod and Full.

BSA are your basic chevrolet trim level, commercial M98 action. Good utility gun one does not need to worry about scratching.

P.S.:The CIL, without even looking would almost certainly be exactly what it looks like. A Early Savage Model 110.

CIL imported a bunch of firearms and rebadged them in their name. Notably some of the CIL 22's were actually Anschutz, and i believe they even rebadged Browning A5's.
 
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Looks like the quintessential Canadian hunting combo. With one extra big game rifle (someone might have been very serious about deer or moose).

Nice inheritance indeed.
 
Too bad the two gauges weren't swapped around.
Mind you, I sure wouldn't have any problem owning that 311 in 20.
I'd be honoured to pack any one of those around.
Great all around shooting package.

Thanks for the story and photos.

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Thanks for the feedback everyone! I certainly appreciate the information and the correction on the BSA. (I warned you my firearms knowledge was limited) I'm excited to get a chance to compare the 30-06 and .308 side by side. Out of the two, I've only ever fired the 30-06, but I've heard people debate which is a better round. It will be interesting to see which I favor overall. I also think the .308 is cheaper to buy ammunition for?

Does anyone have a general value to associate with each gun? I'm hoping to have something to tell my insurance company.

Well you seem to have identified them pretty well, the laughable exception is the BSA but I'll forgive you for that one because you're from the Port and you have a pink duvet.

That's actually my parent's sheets... my wife has picked out a much 'manlier' green flower print for us... >.<!
 
Does anyone have a general value to associate with each gun? I'm hoping to have something to tell my insurance company.

If I were selling these on the EE or at a gun show, these would be my asking prices:

Savage 311- $350
Lakefield .22- $150-200
BSA- $550-600
Ithaca 37- $250-300
CIL/Savage- $400

I might be off a bit, but I think I'm in the ballpark. For insurance, I think I would give them the high estimate, and maybe fudge a little up from that.
 
If I were selling these on the EE or at a gun show, these would be my asking prices:

Savage 311- $350
Lakefield .22- $150-200
BSA- $550-600
Ithaca 37- $250-300
CIL/Savage- $400

I might be off a bit, but I think I'm in the ballpark. For insurance, I think I would give them the high estimate, and maybe fudge a little up from that.

This is excellent! Thank you very much. It gives me a good starting point for insurance.
 
If I were selling these on the EE or at a gun show, these would be my asking prices:

Savage 311- $350
Lakefield .22- $150-200
BSA- $550-600
Ithaca 37- $250-300
CIL/Savage- $400

I might be off a bit, but I think I'm in the ballpark. For insurance, I think I would give them the high estimate, and maybe fudge a little up from that.

Close enough for rock 'n roll.
 
BSA are your basic chevrolet trim level, commercial M98 action. Good utility gun one does not need to worry about scratching

No, they are not a M98. BSA built their own action which they referred to as an "improved" Mauser type. Their actions were all built in-house and were 100% hand made. They are no more a M98 than is the Winchester M70 or Ruger 77

That Majestic of the OP's is mid-1960's built push-feed which in my opinion is worth a little less than the earlier CRF designs. The only downside is that while they were extremely well made the current lack of spare parts drives down their value substantially.
 
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There were two models of Savage/Stevens SxS shotguns. The 315s had strikers while the 311s had internal hammers. Were supposed to be a better grade. I have a 315 in 410 branded "Ranger". Which was an Eaton's brand name. They were cheap in the day, but INMHO just as good as cheaper made shotguns today. Mine has accounted for quite a few pigeons and grouse since I was a boy.
 
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