help with .44 revolvers
- Thread starter foxfire235
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Foxfire235, just so ya know ... the answer to your questions is NO
NO, you can not by a hand gun with under a 5.5" barrel unless you have the mentioned 12(6) status. Which you don't have as it's a "Canadian" thing and well .. you're not a Canadian.
No you can not simply "carry" a handgun in the bush, you need a license (ATC).
You can not even transport a hand gun in Canada unless you have an ATT.
For the vast majority of of us Canadians these are the restrictions we live with which is why you were advised to carry a shotgun like the rest of us.
Aside from the hand gun issue, I hope your trip to the bush goes well, good luck.
NO, you can not by a hand gun with under a 5.5" barrel unless you have the mentioned 12(6) status. Which you don't have as it's a "Canadian" thing and well .. you're not a Canadian.
No you can not simply "carry" a handgun in the bush, you need a license (ATC).
You can not even transport a hand gun in Canada unless you have an ATT.
For the vast majority of of us Canadians these are the restrictions we live with which is why you were advised to carry a shotgun like the rest of us.
Aside from the hand gun issue, I hope your trip to the bush goes well, good luck.
ooops, not a typo though, but thanks for the benefit of the doubt.
Just a brain fart. 
Not sure what I was thinking about that was 5.5" long ... now be nice people. 
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I agree with comments concerning the Super Blackhawk. My wife is able to shoot mine with little problem. For bush work I believe this gun has several things going for it, not the least of which is that there is no crane which requires a DA's lock up to align on two axis making it more delicate. In the bush we don't do delicate. While one cannot fire the SA quite as quickly as a DA, the recoil of big bore revolver cartridges tends to mitigate the difference. Both guns rise in recoil, so the shooter has time to #### the SA's hammer as he brings the gun to "bear" for a follow up shot. While speaking of recoil, many find the grip of a SA less punishing to the web of the hand than a DA grip.
A SBH with a 45/8" barrel is compact and easy to carry. I prefer to carry mine high on the strong side where is will not interfere with the work I am doing, otherwise I prefer to carry so the gun butt is midway between my wrist and elbow on the strong side, or cross draw.
A SBH with a 45/8" barrel is compact and easy to carry. I prefer to carry mine high on the strong side where is will not interfere with the work I am doing, otherwise I prefer to carry so the gun butt is midway between my wrist and elbow on the strong side, or cross draw.
The Ruger SBH's are still very large handguns and if one has to reload it will be impossible to do so quickly.
I carry both s/a and d/a revolvers and while I do carry strong side I prefer cross draw.
I find that I hardly ever carry my 5.5" barreled stainless steel s/a Ruger Bisley Vaquero's in 45 Colt due to how much faster I can reload a d/a and being able to not worry about cocking the hammer manually.
I load the 45 Colt's with hard cast 330gr WLNGC's @ 1280fps.
I have had to many close encounters with bears where I am left standing there with only 6 shots in my gun, doesn't give me that warm cuddly feeling inside like when I am carrying my d/a 4.25" Ruger SRH in 454 Casull with 405gr bullets @ 1200fps.
In other words if you are going to be lugging a revolver around with you in remote wilderness areas get a double action revolver...
I carry both s/a and d/a revolvers and while I do carry strong side I prefer cross draw.
I find that I hardly ever carry my 5.5" barreled stainless steel s/a Ruger Bisley Vaquero's in 45 Colt due to how much faster I can reload a d/a and being able to not worry about cocking the hammer manually.
I load the 45 Colt's with hard cast 330gr WLNGC's @ 1280fps.
I have had to many close encounters with bears where I am left standing there with only 6 shots in my gun, doesn't give me that warm cuddly feeling inside like when I am carrying my d/a 4.25" Ruger SRH in 454 Casull with 405gr bullets @ 1200fps.
In other words if you are going to be lugging a revolver around with you in remote wilderness areas get a double action revolver...
Here's a sample of my 45-70 rifles and 45 Colt revolvers that work for me when I am in remote wilderness areas...
Sounds like you are limited by time and may not be able to get an ATC for a handgun so here a pic of my Dlask Arms Corp's 8.5" barreled Rem 870 12 gauge shotgun.
As of right now you can put a pistol grip (that it comes with) on it and it is still totally non-restricted and has an overall length of about 19" or 29" with the butt stock on.
Capacity is 3 2 3/4" shells in the mag tube and 1 in the chamber. Don't waste your time with 3" slugs the barrel length will not allow the full potential of the extra powder.
Here's another with a 1x scope and tactical light mounted.
Sounds like you are limited by time and may not be able to get an ATC for a handgun so here a pic of my Dlask Arms Corp's 8.5" barreled Rem 870 12 gauge shotgun.
As of right now you can put a pistol grip (that it comes with) on it and it is still totally non-restricted and has an overall length of about 19" or 29" with the butt stock on.
Capacity is 3 2 3/4" shells in the mag tube and 1 in the chamber. Don't waste your time with 3" slugs the barrel length will not allow the full potential of the extra powder.
Here's another with a 1x scope and tactical light mounted.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I've been in some interesting bear situations over the years, but I can't quite see how a fast reload is going to be beneficial. If you have not resolved the situation before your gun is MT, you're done. If the bear has broken off the attack and disappeared into the willows, I can top off my single action without taking the gun out of action. If he reappears I might get a shot off with my SA before you can close the cylinder with a round lined up with the barrel of your DA. With the DA, you must dump out all your rounds in order to reload with a speed loader, and trying to dump just the MT's while trying to reload single rounds is even worse.
Guns that throw 300+ grs of lead at 1200 fps need to be heavy (3 lbs) to be controllable. The smaller grip frame of a SA makes it much easier to hold onto if you have small hands, or thick hands and short figures, and big DA’s aren’t that fast when you can’t reach the trigger.
Guns that throw 300+ grs of lead at 1200 fps need to be heavy (3 lbs) to be controllable. The smaller grip frame of a SA makes it much easier to hold onto if you have small hands, or thick hands and short figures, and big DA’s aren’t that fast when you can’t reach the trigger.
I would feel safe any day of the week against a bear with my ruger .44 SBH Hunter... not exactly compact with a 7.5" barrel, but who cares? its got a good weight to it, a bisley frame which reduces the rise and felt recoil, and the bisley hammer is much lower to grip. also, if youre inclined to do so you can mount some gunfighter grips, which are a lot slimmer and further reduce the grip of the gun if youve got small hands.
its also accurate, its very, very accurate. and easy to aim!
its also accurate, its very, very accurate. and easy to aim!
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notice the "Bird's Head" grip frame on the .45c in this picture.
it is also another option for a smaller hand with the grips slimmed
down some, but with the heavy .44 mag loads will be intimidating.
i don't think you would notice it when shooting at a bear at point
blanc range, but practicing with it shooting "bear loads" would be,
that's for sure....
any of the grip frames on these rugers can be switched to suit your
needs.
a .44 mag ruger single action is a fine choice if you ask me!
ruffbird. (ruger lover)
it is also another option for a smaller hand with the grips slimmed
down some, but with the heavy .44 mag loads will be intimidating.
i don't think you would notice it when shooting at a bear at point
blanc range, but practicing with it shooting "bear loads" would be,
that's for sure....
any of the grip frames on these rugers can be switched to suit your
needs.
a .44 mag ruger single action is a fine choice if you ask me!
ruffbird. (ruger lover)
Personaly I wouldn't want a SA revolver for carry/bear defense... Also I find them very difficust to control with full pover loads, because the grip twis in your hand and muzzle flips quite a bit; which would resut in very slow follow up shots.
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lugger, that rise and kick depends a lot of the frame. the SAA style frames do not handle heavy loads well at all, and are generally only employed in revolvers firing .45 colt, which is a moderate enough caliber to fire easily with those frames. Ive fired .44 rugers with frames like that and they had far too much jump in the grip, the bisley style frame is highly suited to firing .44 mag. quick pic for comparison, bisley on the right:
notice the height of the hammer on the bisley as well, it is much easier to reach without changing your grip on the gun.
notice the height of the hammer on the bisley as well, it is much easier to reach without changing your grip on the gun.
the only super blackhawk with a bisley grip frame is the Hunter model I've got. the easiest way to pick out the bisley frame, is the little little round cutout on the innermost upper corner of the grip panel.
could also get a super redhawk double action in .454 casull, thats garunteed to do some serious damage on the first hit (not that .44 mag isnt going to have the same effect)
while single actions are generally slower to reload, if youre southpaw like me, you will actually find it better than a double action, no changing hands required, single action feels more natural.
could also get a super redhawk double action in .454 casull, thats garunteed to do some serious damage on the first hit (not that .44 mag isnt going to have the same effect
)while single actions are generally slower to reload, if youre southpaw like me, you will actually find it better than a double action, no changing hands required, single action feels more natural.
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- Location
- AB foothills
For the right price, this one could be up for grabs
