Help with Enfield trainer *Chamber Cast Done!*

tiriaq said:
You know, if this barrel could be acquired for a nominal cost, it would be easy enough to make up a .22 rifle on a nondescript SMLE.
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Ok, I'll buy it for you and we'll make up a rare Experimental .22 Mark VIII Enfield Trainer and auction it off for $1200 .... :dancingbanana:

Well, maybe not .... :slap:

...... but I bet there's a lot of folks nowadays who would ... ;)

Regards,
Badger
 
tiriaq said:
A centrefire bolt would be used with a centrefire cartridge. Perhaps there were conveyors which used the Morris Tube cartridge. When I checked Skennerton, I could find no reference to a centrefire Pattern 1918.
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The conveyer insert has a device that offsets the pin strike apparently.
 
I have no knowledge of such a conveyor, doesn't mean that they don't exist.
I believe there is such an adapter which was used with the .55" Boyes rifle. HWC made them, so the Boyes could be fired on a .22" range.
This is a common enough system used in civilian convertors. They are awkward to use. I would think that from a service standpoint, having a little insert would be a nightmare, the things would get lost, and the conveyor would become useless.

BadgerDog - We could do up a genuine .22" "tanker" conversion. If it worked for Navy Arms, why not? You could prepare a photo spread illustrating all the unique features. Actually, I used some odds and ends of salvaged parts, sleeved a No.4 barrel to .22, and made up a rifle not unlike a UK No.9. Lots of messed up Lee Enfields with which to tinker. We have all seen the photos of mudpuppy's remarkable Delisle reproductions.
 
I believe there is such an adapter which was used with the .55" Boyes rifle. HWC made them, so the Boyes could be fired on a .22" range.
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Here is a photo of my two. The little adapter which converts from centerfire to rimfire which goes in the center seems to be missing on 95% of the ones I have seen. The right one shown has the adapter, which is retained by a small spring ring.

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I did a chamber cast on this rifle with some beeswax (cerrosafe didn't work very well) and it appears to be an obscure cartridge that I've never seen and wasn't listed in "Cartridges of the World" under any of the headings, even the obsolete cartridges.

It is closest to 22 Savage High Power but the shoulders are a little less sloped.

Will post pictures tomorrow.
 
If it looks like a .22 High Power, but isn't, consider the .219 Zipper, or one of the Zipper based wildcats.
 
Chamber cast done. It doesn't appear to be a zipper varient. Any help anyone can offer is appreciated. I will be emailing the seller of the firearm to ask for a refund... especially if this ammo is no longer available.

Note the long neck and slight taper in the shoulders! Quite a mystery.

I've also noticed that the muzzle on this rifle is slightly larger than my other .22s. I don't know if this is wear or a sign that the bore is larger than .22 calibre.

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A gunshop employee tried a 250 savage in the muzzle and he said it didn't fit. That's not difinitive, since I didn't do it myself, but it might be smaller than .25 calibre.
 
Yeah it's quite different from a .22 Hornet. The chamber cast does so much to clear up the difficulties - yet I still have this problem!
 
You may wnat to look up some of the many chamberings they did in Australia and in the UK.
Most were based on the .303 case, necked in various forms to .22 caliber, .25 caliber, etc, etc....

There was even a rimmed version of the .222 Rem, but that's another story....

John
 
22.303.

hear is a pic of a brass beside a regular 303 for a weirdo chanbred 22-303 i picked up years ago. not quiet the same as yours, but the same idea.
also a couple pics of a chamber insert that is ment to be used with a centre fire bolt

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