Help with making my MR223 not such a heavy ##### (lady)

Do the Geissele HK416 rails fit on the MR223? They might be a lot lighter and would be a good place to start but unfortunately they are so expensive that they might be out of reach to a lot of people.
 
greentips said:
If you can swing a C8A3 with RAS, you can swing a MR223.
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Seriously? Is this what you look like IRL?

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CobraGT said:
Y'know, it's funny, I usually respect posts from both of you guys, but in this case, you're both coming across as tools. I'd be really surprised to hear that either of you own 16" MR556 rifles... if you did, you'd understand. It's not that the gun's heavy (well, it IS heavy for an AR - just a hair under 9 pounds from the factory), but that it's awkward with the long, heavy barrel. All the weight's out front. If you shoot from the bench, it's fine, who cares. If you shoot dynamically in tac rifle matches, 3gun, or something along those lines, trust me, it's NOT the gun you'd choose. There's a reason the 416 is a short barrel.

Oh, and if either of you are ever in Surrey, I'll happily arm wrestle either one of ya - loser buys the beer. I'm 6'1, 210lbs, and work out all the freaking time. It's not that I'm a weak guy.

Cheers
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I own them all. So i know. Try carrying a c9 or c6 with spare barrel ammo and tripod with C2 sight etc 20 miles through the bush. With ammo.

Add a peq to your AR carry a full load. Guys its light enough when you go lighter you are compromising. What you give up for those lighter rifles sometimes are things you really want.

Light
Medium
Heavy

And sometimes in between.

There are advantages to both. This can reflect tactics and doctrines that will change according to the needs of militaries, police units or civilians. One thing for certain is the average shooter i find has no clue.
 
Stoner99 said:
I own them all. So i know. Try carrying a c9 or c6 with spare barrel ammo and tripod with C2 sight etc 20 miles through the bush. With ammo.
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And I have a HS50M1 that weights 32lbs without optics. If a MR223 is a heavy #####, I don't know what he would call this.

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Or this fuc***

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Stoner99 said:
I own them all. So i know. Try carrying a c9 or c6 with spare barrel ammo and tripod with C2 sight etc 20 miles through the bush. With ammo.
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Yeah, been there done that with the L7 and 800 rds. I feel your pain, especially when you have to push to the front every bloody time the Plt Ldr calls a bloody halt!
Add a peq to your AR carry a full load. Guys its light enough when you go lighter you are compromising.
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Add an underslung M203PI to the mix and coupled mags. Now your bess weighs in at better than one stone. I still TABed with it and I still swung that iron well enough.

-S.
 
greentips said:
If you can swing a C8A3 with RAS, you can swing a MR223.

There is minimal difference between a HK MR223 and the CC 15.7 L119A2 IUR. The HK has a 1" bbl behind gas block, the CC has 0.85-87" . In front of the gas block, HK is 0.8" and CC has a big bob of steel that is over 1".

All you need is a 13" after market handguard on the MR to make it work. MI made one and it is actually pretty cheap.
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I can't speak to this beyond that I used to swing L119A1s with PEQs, GL and a coupled mag without too much trouble. I see this a lot on civvie street. A bog standard service rifle kitted for CQB & night fighting tends to become unmanageable to those who didn't use one for a living.

-S.
 
mebiuspower said:
And I have a HS50M1 that weights 32lbs without optics. If a MR223 is a heavy #####, I don't know what he would call this.
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What does any of that have to do with his MR223? He wants it lighter and made a thread about it, you guys can stop s**tting up his thread with your complete s**t posts. Tool was the correct term.
 
-[Crosshair]- said:
What does any of that have to do with his MR223? He wants it lighter and made a thread about it, you guys can stop s**tting up his thread with your complete s**t posts. Tool was the correct term.
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I call it how I see it. As it stands, I figure that he can use it as designed, or he can turn it into not what he bought. Which would be kinda funny, in my opinion. Spending all that cash to get what USSOCOM uses so that he can change it to be lighter. Why not just buy a lighter rifle to start with? Cheaper than buying the HK, then spending more money to make it into something else.

-S.
 
Check out the Geissele hand guards. They have a whole lot less material to them and should be lighter than stock. Arms East seems to sell some.
 
OkayShooter said:
Its a platoon weapon. So doubt one would carry all that gear for 20miles.
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The standard was that the gunner and loader carried the spare barrel, tripod, if issued, sight , if issued and a minimum of 800rds for the gun. Every other member of the platoon carried an extra 200rds for the gun as well as rounds for any company level assets, Such as the Milan, Mortar or Heavy machine gun, add in the fact that they had to carry L72s and extra ammo for the L4/L86/L108/L110 and this shyte gets heavy FAST.

-S.
 
alexD92 said:
Check out the Geissele hand guards. They have a whole lot less material to them and should be lighter than stock. Arms East seems to sell some.
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no apparently the Gieselle ones weigh more. Just balanced better according to a review a few years back i read. I always just stuck with the HK quad rail. No need to replace it for me. Arms east has them but i couldn't justify the expense. Midwest Ind seems like a great option.

All new latest gismos dont do it for me to go out and replace the quad rail with.
 
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