Help with recoil !!

Wrencher2008

Wrencher2008

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I need your help. I got the Mossy 500 12 gauge 3 barrel combo awhile back and decided I would try deer hunting this year. I got a cheap tasco red dot, put on the rifled cantilever barrel, grabbed some sabots and off I went to the range. I got set up at the 50 yard to sight in, aimed the dot, pulled the trigger and HOLY S#IT I thought my teeth were gonna fall out.Now that is what I call bone jarring recoil. Does anyone know if limb-saver recoil pads work ??? Or anything else....noway I will shoot this and hit vitals of deer.Thanks in advance.
 
Welcome to the world of pump shotguns.....

Yes the recoil pad can and might help

Then again, once you pull the trigger and your on target, it should hit the deer no problem, about the same time it will hit your shoulder, you just might not be able to do any follow up shots quickly....

I have a Rem 870, no recoil pad, but I don't find it all that bad, but I wouldn't want to be shooting it all day, now the Beretta X2 with kick off, now that is a dream to shoot....

Just remeber the recoil pad will change your length of pull, so carefull on how thick of a pad you get
 
Wrencher2008 said:
I need your help. I got the Mossy 500 12 gauge 3 barrel combo awhile back and decided I would try deer hunting this year. I got a cheap tasco red dot, put on the rifled cantilever barrel, grabbed some sabots and off I went to the range. I got set up at the 50 yard to sight in, aimed the dot, pulled the trigger and HOLY S#IT I thought my teeth were gonna fall out.Now that is what I call bone jarring recoil. Does anyone know if limb-saver recoil pads work ??? Or anything else....noway I will shoot this and hit vitals of deer.Thanks in advance.
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I use Kick-Eez pads and yes they help. No recoil pad is going to do it all. Mounting recoil pads to synthetic stocks can be a pain. Not always but often enough. Even the so called precision or ready fit pads often do NOT fit properly. Try to buy local in case you need to return it.

Are you using 3" or 2 3/4" slugs. The 2 3/4" recoil less. Look for Remington or other manufacturer's reduced recoil slugs.

Adding weight to the gun will help. Either lead shot in the buttstock or even a recoil reducer (pretty expensive usually).

You can also use a shooting jacket/vest or shoulder protector.

And above all remember there are lots of guys out there that swear the recoil from 3" slugs is pretty tame! Yeah, I know, BUL&*^&T!!
Slugs recoil hard!!!
 
You are right about the recoil, I shoot a 870 and it kicks like a mule. It does not bother me that much mind you. I would not want to shoot it all day long though.
I cut down, and put a limbsaver on my otherhalfs 870 and it made quite a difference to her.
 
savage112 said:
You will really notice the recoil shooting off the bench, but when you line it up on a deer, you won't feel a thing.However, I switched to a 20 gauge a few years ago and have no regrets.
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The problem being I want to get my red dot set up (bench shooting required) I knew it would kick but this is ridiculous. :D:D I haven't even hit paper yet. :mad:
 
I have a mossberg 500 too, 18.5" cylinder bore barrel. I was shooting at the range with it as some cans the other day, from my box of "who know what the hell these are" random old factory, handloads, etc. I noticed much the same thing. I was firing away, and all of a sudden... bam! bam! BOOOM! "holy phack that one was buckshot!" i exclaim. I wasn't ready for it, and yeah, i got a little knock from it, but you know what? It made it to the target just fine! As it's been said, when you're lined up on a deer and your heart's pounding, you're trying to slow your breathing down, and the adrenaline is giving you that rush, someone could kick you in the nuts and you'd still be able to make a follow up. Recoil while hunting will most likely not be a factor!
 
Try shooting a few! You get used to it! First time I ever shot mine I thought the same thing, but now I can go out and put 15-20 down range in a trip. It hurts on the drive home a bit but thats the name of the game. You can also try filling the buttstock with lead shot. The Mossbergs are really light guns and that makes a difference.
 
i second the BLACKHAWK KNOXX nomination! my mossberg hits my shoulder like a pussy cat lovetap due to the knoxx recoil reduction stock, it puts your shoulder a lil higher too so your eye is naturally lined up with optics
id put the recoil with 12ga slugs at the same level as small caliber centrefire

if you just want to sight it in, try a bushnell boresighter, they are fairly cheap and work excellent for the shotgun sized bore, measure the distance between the centre of the barrel and the centre of the optic and make a couple dots on a piece of paper that far apart and sight it in at about 10' away and you will be very on the paper at 50m, they will also get you in the ballpark with smaller bores
 
try shooting a few turkey loads out of it at big pails of water .then go back to shooting 2.75 inch slugs thy will feel like you re shooting a 22 rim fire after that just a side note just becoues your gun can shoot the 3 inch or 3.5 inch does no mean you have to get some short slugs and get used to your shot gun first DUTCH
 
One aspect of recoil control which I didn't see mentioned in the previous threads is that of stock fit. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that 80% of shooters have stocks that are too long, particularly those shooting pumps and auto shotguns. A good pad will help lessen the effects of felt recoil, but too long a stock will kick the snot out of you no matter what else you do. If you have a stock that is too short it will be less punishing than one that is too long, yet while most adults can do quite well with a LOP of 13"-13.5" most repeating shotguns have LOPs of 14" or more.

The next most important consideration in minimizing the effects of recoil is your shooting stance, particularly if your shot is horizontal rather than elevated. You should be standing in a boxers stance, but rather than standing erect, bend your forward knee slightly and lean into the shot. The position does not need to be exaggerated, but your center of balance moves forward from being centered between your legs. The recoil energy then travels across your chest and down the leg positioned to the rear and you feel less of it.

If you are shooting a pump, some of that recoil energy can be used to pull back the slide which provides a quicker follow up shot compared to first absorbing all of the recoil energy and then cycling the action.
 
If it's your first shotgun go shoot a few rounds of skeet or sporting clays over the course of 3-4 weekends (1-2 rounds per weekend). The first week you'll have a bruise, the second week you'll be sore, after that it'll be a joke and then shoot those slugs...
 
Matt_mg said:
If it's your first shotgun go shoot a few rounds of skeet or sporting clays over the course of 3-4 weekends (1-2 rounds per weekend). The first week you'll have a bruise, the second week you'll be sore, after that it'll be a joke and then shoot those slugs...
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The more you practice the less you will notice the recoil, I shoot 200 rounds a week of mixed ammo. Slugs are nothing, I was even shooting clays with my 3 1/2inch waterfowl to get myself used to it for Early goose season.
 
Thanks

Thanks very much everyone for all the tips and tricks. I have used this gun for trap (4 rounds) and had no problem at all. I don't know if there can be a problem with rifled barrel or something but I swear this was a brutal feeling.Maybe I was holding gun wrong ?? I had front stock on sandbags and cheek on stock (like I do with all rifles/shotguns) It smacked my cheek/teeth and it felt like my brain was sloshing around in my skull....I know it sounds funny but it was brutal. To top it off I now will have a terrible flinch. I think I will ask someone at range to try it and see what they think.I am going to get the limb-saver and possibly the shoulder pad.Thanks again. By the way I am 6' 225 and feel like a wuss:D:D
 
Recoil does not bother me too much personally and I am 5' 10" 160 pounds but I do shoot ALOT of slugs. Adding weight inside the empty stock, using low recoil rounds and adding a good recoil pad will all help.
 
Wrencher2008 said:
Thanks very much everyone for all the tips and tricks. I have used this gun for trap (4 rounds) and had no problem at all. I don't know if there can be a problem with rifled barrel or something but I swear this was a brutal feeling.Maybe I was holding gun wrong ?? I had front stock on sandbags and cheek on stock (like I do with all rifles/shotguns) It smacked my cheek/teeth and it felt like my brain was sloshing around in my skull....I know it sounds funny but it was brutal. To top it off I now will have a terrible flinch. I think I will ask someone at range to try it and see what they think.I am going to get the limb-saver and possibly the shoulder pad.Thanks again. By the way I am 6' 225 and feel like a wuss:D:D
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Shooting off the bench inflicts the greatest amount of felt recoil to the shooter next to prone. Next time you shoot off sandbags, use a higher rest so you are sitting straighter rather than being hunched forward. This will allow you to move more with the recoil and absorb less of it. Guys that are thick through the shoulders and chest often find recoil more objectionable than a fellow who is lighter framed.

The only way to work through a flinch once it has been developed is with lots of shooting. Shoot as many trap and filed loads as you can afford, and work in a few high velocity shot loads and slugs as your comfort level will allow. Don't shoot until the gun hurts you, and don't continue to shoot heavy loads once you've been hurt.
 
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