Help with scope choice!
- Thread starter Kilo Charlie
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I guess he didnt look at bobs VXIII serial either ...dam he should keep closer track of them numbers oh and I can buy scopes from the usa without a hastle as long as I pay duties on them ..bin der done dat ...now back to scope choices.....buy a mueller haha
Back to the theme of the thread. I am shopping right now for new optics and have compared the discussed scopes. Elites and VXII's are great scopes, I have a 3200 and it works fine. Burris quality is also very high. All have lifetime warranties. Buy the one you like best and feel most comfortable with. Leupolds VXII are more expensive than the Elite 3200 and the Fullfield II for no demonstrated performance advantage that I am aware of. The comments on this thread seem to bear that out. The Leupy guys love their Leupys, the Elitists love their elites, and the Burris guys are happy with their fullfields. The 3200 has rainguard and if that is a concern go Elite. Burris has longer eye relief and if that is a concern go Burris. Burris also has higher light transmission rating (95%) than the elite 3200. I do not know what the VXII transmission rating is, but from what I have read it is comparable to the 3200. I LIKE my 3200 for toughness and the rainguard, but if brightness was my #1 priority, for the money the burris is superior. If you love Leupolds, buy a leupold. No single scope is BEST for everyone. Compare them and find the one that is best for YOU.
Sorry, didn't mean to get carried away. And I agree very much with the previous comment by shepodyguide. A scope like a rifle is a personal choice taking into account what it will be used for. Hunting, any brand name and some not so brand names with 3 to 9 power and a 40 or 42 mm objective. Unless you have the time to adjust stay away from paralax adjustable. This is were Leupold does have an advantage. Leupold are usually set at 150yds for paralax wereas most other manufacturers set them at 100yds. Any $100.00 scope is far better today then most $500.00 scopes 25 years ago.
I tend to stay from scopes that feature the "Fast focus" feature. 2 reasons, 1. Hold the rifle to your shoulder, grasp the eye piece and wiggle it. It will move sometimes as much as right off the target at 100yds. 2. You should focus your rifle scope perhaps twice over the lifetime of the scope. When you first mount it and then when you get older and your eyes change.
Just my 2 cents.
Scott
I tend to stay from scopes that feature the "Fast focus" feature. 2 reasons, 1. Hold the rifle to your shoulder, grasp the eye piece and wiggle it. It will move sometimes as much as right off the target at 100yds. 2. You should focus your rifle scope perhaps twice over the lifetime of the scope. When you first mount it and then when you get older and your eyes change.
Just my 2 cents.
Scott
Something I forgot to mention is that the Ballistic Plex reticle which Burris has is functional according to reports and is not a gimmick. It is a nice feature which can be matched to a specific caliber and load for those looking to extend the trajectory of their rifle. Certainly not foolproof (nothing is) but a useful tool. Elites don't have this as far as I know, and a comparable reticle is available on VX-III's (Boone and Crockett), but not VX-II's. The new VX-II's are considerably brighter with the use of the new multi-coat 4 lens system. They are a fine, proven reliable choice.
I just bought a Burris Fullfield II on ebay and will be mounting it on my new T/C Omega Z5 .50. With the Ballistic Plex reticle matched to muzzle velocity and projectile, 200 yd plus shots are possible under ideal conditions where yardage is known. I'm sure I'll like the Burris, but next time I might buy a Leupy. Who knows? They don't pay us to be loyal, so why should we be loyal to only one manufacturer? Being loyal to quality products makes a whole lot more sense to me than being loyal to one manufacturer. That is, if you have the comfort level with that manufacturer and product.
I just bought a Burris Fullfield II on ebay and will be mounting it on my new T/C Omega Z5 .50. With the Ballistic Plex reticle matched to muzzle velocity and projectile, 200 yd plus shots are possible under ideal conditions where yardage is known. I'm sure I'll like the Burris, but next time I might buy a Leupy. Who knows? They don't pay us to be loyal, so why should we be loyal to only one manufacturer? Being loyal to quality products makes a whole lot more sense to me than being loyal to one manufacturer. That is, if you have the comfort level with that manufacturer and product.
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m39a2 said:
we declaired them at the boarder .. Foxer still has the paperwork on them
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They were declared and of course i had to pay taxes on their retail value.
However - remember that the test scopes we recieved were sent 'for testing purposes', and were not exported for sale as a commercial product. When i talked to the american customs, they said that was fine - different story than a commercial export.
All muellers purchased in canada from the canadian distributer have been legally exported with the proper permits. American scopes that may have 'found their way up here' over the years will still be serviced by the canadian dealer, whom you can contact at whitefalls.ca. You get them for the same price up here as down there - so you'd be pretty silly not to buy them up here.
Fantastic scopes. If you like leupold you'll really appreciate the tac 2 series from mueller. No red dot - but a heck of a scope.
BTW folks - actually buying a scope in the states and bringing it across IS indeed illegal. The fact it is done often doesn't change that.
And therefore - NO disucssion of buying scopes in the states and bringing them back without a permit will be allowed on the board. Trust me - the powers that be are brutal about that particular topic.
And therefore - NO disucssion of buying scopes in the states and bringing them back without a permit will be allowed on the board. Trust me - the powers that be are brutal about that particular topic.
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if they were for testing why the hell did we pay duties on them then geesh
They charged me for the ball caps too
They said EVERYTHING gets duty on it period, even if it's for testing, based on it's Retail value or wholesale if you have proof of how much you were charged. Of course, my charges on the bill of lading were 'zero'.
Just the way it is.
Got my new 3x9x40 Burris Fullfield II last night and compared it side by side with my new 3200 elite 3x9x40. Both are bright scopes but the Burris is noticeably brighter in low light. However in low light the ballistic plex reticle is useless for my eyes under those conditions, as the graduations are too fine. Would work well in decent light conditions though.
