Help with value - Martini, Swede Rolling Block and repro Colt/Rem C&B

[4b1t]

I'm going through my firearms and realize that I have not used/fired these in about 25 years. It is time to find them a new home. I have searched for values but can find nothing similar in the EE search, except the Swede. I will put them on the EE once I can establish a fair price. Your input greatly appreciated.

Swede 8mm Rolling Block. Matching numbers on barrel,hammer, breechblock and stock. Nice bore with strong rifling, a little frosty in places. I see Tradex has the full military config versions for 700.00 and there is one on the EE with a bad barrel for about 300.00


Citadel 303 Martini. A bunch of these came in about 30 years ago and I bought one. Apparently the Martini assembly line was sold to the Egyptians and they continued to manufacture/refurbish them in 303. Marked Citadel with a 1903 manufacture date. Great, shiny bore with strong rifling. I recall it is a very accurate 303. Can't find one similar for pricing. Thoughts?

Repro 36 cal Cap and Ball and Remington 44 Cap and Ball. I bought them both from original owner about 30 years ago. Last fired them about 25 years ago a bit, cleaned them and put them away. Not made from kits. Proud to say I cleaned them well, mirror bores, just pulled out and oiled every once in a while. Colt is marked Navy Arms, Made in Italy. Remington is marked Euroarms, made in Italy. Again, any thoughts on value ?

Any help appreciated.

 

[antiqueguy]

some better pics of the martini would be a good idea some close ups of the markings and back of the breech block and were wood meets metal on both the forend and wrist im very skeptical of any guns coming out of that area a lot of Khyber pass lee enfiled and martini enfields/henrys

 

[Skinny 1950]

Is there a Navy Battle Scene roll stamped on the Colt Repro?
Here are the date codes for Italian Firearms which are usually in a rectangular box on the right side of the frame:

 

[4b1t]

Agreed, however the Citadel Martini is a known variant, not a Khyber pass knock off. Grant R, who is a member here seems to know a lot about them.

ht tp://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/4144#.UYSKxsu9KSM

 

[4b1t]

Thanks for that, but no code in box. Smooth cylinder. Simply Navy Arms Co. on left side of receiver and top of barrel and Made in Italy with a script GU or some such on right side of frame. Serial number on underside of frame.

Found the markings in your chart on the Remington - ### so 1974 manufacture date, thanks.

Is there a Navy Battle Scene roll stamped on the Colt Repro?

Here are the date codes for Italian Firearms which are usually in a rectangular box on the right side of the frame:

 

[Andy]

I'm going through my firearms and realize that I have not used/fired these in about 25 years. It is time to find them a new home. I have searched for values but can find nothing similar in the EE search, except the Swede. I will put them on the EE once I can establish a fair price. Your input greatly appreciated.

Swede 8mm Rolling Block. Matching numbers on barrel,hammer, breechblock and stock. Nice bore with strong rifling, a little frosty in places. I see Tradex has the full military config versions for 700.00 and there is one on the EE with a bad barrel for about 300.00

Citadel 303 Martini. A bunch of these came in about 30 years ago and I bought one. Apparently the Martini assembly line was sold to the Egyptians and they continued to manufacture/refurbish them in 303. Marked Citadel with a 1903 manufacture date. Great, shiny bore with strong rifling. I recall it is a very accurate 303. Can't find one similar for pricing. Thoughts?

The value in the Rolling Block is its action - few people want a sportered RB in 8X58RD. I'd say about $350

I have the same Citadel 303 Martini and it's a legitimate military weapon. Can't suggest a price as I bought it years ago, but I'd like ot hear too.

 

[jethunter]

RB - $300-$350. Being sporterised cuts the value in half.
Martini - I don't know, though I suspect it will be worth more than the rest combined.
Colt and Remmy repros - probably not over $300 each, maybe less. Good quality but not antique, rare, or exotic.

 

[4b1t]

Using my powers of Google-fu, I was able to find a thread on my Colt.

ht tp://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?418721-Navy-Arms-1851

Mine has the same markings including the script "GU" on the right side of the frame.

Apparently it stands for Gregorelli and Uberti and they were the first C&P brought in by Navy Arms back in the sixties. GU marked pistols were only made from 1958 to 1962. Supposedly they are quite collectible in the US.

"This gun has no Italian proof marks and is not marked blackpowder only. The only marks are "NAVY ARMS CO" on the left side of the frame and on the barrel top flat, on the right side of the barrel "MADE IN ITALY" and the letters "GU" in script. These guns began production in 1958 to be ready for the Centennial of the Civil War. They were produced by Gregorelli and Uberti. They are the earliest Navy Arms made. In the early days of the Navy Arms / Uberti connection, Gregorelli actually produced the metal parts for the revolvers and Uberti assembled them.

This is a copy of a "Civilian Model". None of the attachments for the shoulder stock are on this revolver. There are no safety pins on the breech of the cylinder and the hammer face does not have the notch for the pins. The hammer does sport a non-traditional square notch for a rear sight. The cylinder is not engraved but smooth."