Help with Winchester model 94 carbine value

[9.3mauser]

But what’s the cutoff date that makes one pre 64 more valuable tan another, all condition being equal?

Roughly, pre-war/post-war. There are a lot of nuances. The saddle ring was deleted in 1927 iirc. In 1930 the style of the carbines was changed from the old west style, to a more modern look. There was the flat-band period, from 1946-48. Even though this was an attempt to make the rifle cheaper to produce, they now command a premium.

I think it ultimately comes down to scarcity and condition. The more rare a variation is, and the better the condition, the higher the price. Pre-war the production was divvied up between rifles and carbines. Post war, it was all carbines until the post-'64 fad of producing commemoratives. The 1950's were the most prolific period of production, the 1930's, the least.

A saddle ring carbine in this, original, condition would likely bring double what a 1950's rifle would in the same condition, because so few rifles survive in that condition. ( not my rifle btw )

 

[Craig0ry]

I browse the EE about 27x a day. I click on any model 94 I see pop up, Can't remember the last one I saw in the $600 range regardless of pre or post 64 and condition. The Norm for a rusty Post 64 seems to be $800 starting now.

And scrolling through 9 pages of GP confirms exactly what I just said. other than a few ratty ones in 32ws

 

[kamlooky]

Roughly, pre-war/post-war. There are a lot of nuances. The saddle ring was deleted in 1927 iirc. In 1930 the style of the carbines was changed from the old west style, to a more modern look. There was the flat-band period, from 1946-48. Even though this was an attempt to make the rifle cheaper to produce, they now command a premium.

I think it ultimately comes down to scarcity and condition. The more rare a variation is, and the better the condition, the higher the price. Pre-war the production was divvied up between rifles and carbines. Post war, it was all carbines until the post-'64 fad of producing commemoratives. The 1950's were the most prolific period of production, the 1930's, the least.

A saddle ring carbine in this, original, condition would likely bring double what a 1950's rifle would in the same condition, because so few rifles survive in that condition. ( not my rifle btw )


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Great note.
Now iff’in those four letters are stamped to’n fro you hit a good mine.

Seen only one and I regret not grabbing it.
One of lifes lessons.

Oh, PCMR.

 

[Craig0ry]

Great note.
Now iff’in those four letters are stamped to’n fro you hit a good mine.

Seen only one and I regret not grabbing it.
One of lifes lessons.

Oh, PCMR.

You can find one now Kamlooky! its just $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Father in law has one, His Dad was in the PCMR, Straight up told me I wouldn't be getting it...

 

[scianna54]

This won’t last two winks in the ee for your wee estimate.

I agree, the correct price is $900 to $1,100. Not for met though. I don't like that style of rifle. I had a few, shot once, never again. Many available but mostly for $1,200 plus.

 

[BigUglyMan]

This won’t last two winks in the ee for your wee estimate.

Exactly. Like it or not, the Winchester 94 market has gone completely insane over the past decade. What used to be an affordable starter rifle or plaything is now a significant purchase.

 

[kamlooky]

Exactly. Like it or not, the Winchester 94 market has gone completely insane over the past decade. What used to be an affordable starter rifle or plaything is now a significant purchase.

Thry’ve sure pushed the 99’s aside, that’s furshure.

 

[BigUglyMan]

Thry’ve sure pushed the 99’s aside, that’s furshure.

Ain't that the truth!

 

[Painkillers]

Ok,that understandable.
So because it’s an older model it has few features that adds value.
But what’s the cutoff date that makes one pre 64 more valuable tan another, all condition being equal?

Well, things like caliber considerations. 30-30 or something obscure and redundant caliber would have a bearing. Rarity of factory offerings, stock wood selections...if all condition variables were equal.

 

[45C]

I have a 1954 , less than a box of 3030 put through it .
Bluing and wood is as new.
Paid $900 for it a few years ago and thought that was a bit pricey.

 

[Mike Webb]

I agree with around 1k for price. Pretty much grey gun but wood looks unsanded and decent shape. Younger generation will pay just as much for a garbage(to my mind) post 64 carbine( especially 1964 to 1968, the absolute worst) . Seem not to differentiate between pre and post 64 rifles. To me the pre ww2 rifles are preferable to those built later. I find collector Winchester interest and prices are dropping because the guys who grew up loving these guns are dying off.