Brutus
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^^Now this is sage advice, thank you Jeff000.
helping with the hog problem
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ive yet to see a pig(farmed ones) not drop from a .22lr just got to know the right spot
its just a bit behind the ear and down just a bit its a thin spot right there about the 2" in diameter i killed a few pigs that way not fun being in the pen when you miss 
i did see one that had it guts hanging out and still running thay where using buckshot in a semi auto shotgun and a ar 15 from a helicopter
Brutus
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Slaughtering livestock & actually hunting wild boar are two seperate & different situations.
If you can't heed Jeff000's advice from a learned friend, then you can't either read or comprehend the truth.
If you can't heed Jeff000's advice from a learned friend, then you can't either read or comprehend the truth.
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the boys down south like to over do things i know some one who made a .700 to shoot p-dogs for the cost of 1 round i can do the same for less in fact
i could kill 50 for the price of 1 round of .700
i know for a fact .22lr is good enough for anything up to deer my cooy model 60 has been handed down since it was bought brand new its killed every thing from deer to mice
deer,wolf,coyote,fox,racoon,opossum,rabbit,hare,squirrel,rats and mice(with rat shot), not to think of the 20 or so 300lb pigs
people cant shoot thats why thay make up by using a bigger cal
i can shoot a penny at 50 yards with my cooey i should ive only been shooting it for 14 years i have not seen any ammo it will not get good groups with but the best groups are with the bulk pack stuff it seems
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Okay, you can't listen to reason obviously, so I'm giving up trying to pound common sense into your abstract thoughts.
Now go give it a try, but don't tell you life insurance carrier your plan.
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and if you dont think .22lr will kill a wild hog then here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV2Qii_4Vb4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV2Qii_4Vb4
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You can't get a silencer so again you fail, and in the USA lending a Class III device, to those for hunting without licencing is a felony in all states. They said in this video, they only shoot the sick and the weak from a tower stand, overlooking thier feed area no less. They shot a small one. IMHO, hardly a ringing endorsement for general use of 22 LR. They are also probably expert game shots with loads of big game/varmint experience. Are you??
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I can kill mice with a stick, can kill an infinite amount of them for the cost of picking up a stick... I don't know what you are getting at.
I'm sure there is someone that has killed an Elephant with a .22 or a grizzly or a polar bear etc.
I'm not saying you can't. Nor did I say you couldn't.
Shooting a penned domestic pig is NOT the same as a wild pig. As much as you want to make the correlation.
People use a more suitable round then .22 because when out in the field and not a pen you very seldom get a line for the perfect shot. It's not overkill.
I highly doubt you are shooting these penned pigs from 50 yards out, I mean you even say it's not fun being in the pen when you miss, so you are missing with feet between the barrel and the pig....
Please post video the one shot bang flops while shooting wild bor with your .22 please.
I'll take the warnings my buddy with loads of experience shooting wild hogs gives me.
Says right in the video they only shoot the sick and the weak...
Not to sure that video helps your case.
The lack of a silencer does not make a 22lr any less fatal.
Your right domestic live stock slaughter is a bit different from hunting. But as a butcher by trade I seen 1000 or so steers , hogs , cows ect dropped with a 22lr.
The job is best done with a round nose no hollow point. The hollow points open too fast and don't give the penetration.
I have personally dropped escaped steers and one cow that could not be caught, with a single 22lr.
If shot properly it stones them.
The best shot is from the back approx. "2 inch's or so below the knob on top of the head where the horns grow out from (horn boss)
For this shot it is better to have a slight down angle to reduce the fear of skipping the bullet. I have done this shot twice on steers (1000-1400 lbs) from the back of a pickup truck at 30-40 yrds
Alternately from the front, "1 inch either side of center and just above center forehead.
The danger of a dead center shot is the bullet can go between the two hemispheres of the brain , and not do enough damage.
I would prefer a larger gun for the job , but I would have no problem hunting pigs with a 22lr personally.
A steady hand and some knowledge will get the job done.
I do agree that a shotgun with buck shot would NOT be my choice , due to the fact I could not be guaranteed that even 1 of the balls would hit exactly where I would want it. a broad side shot on ribs of a hog wild or domestic past 10 yrds would scare the ####e of of me ! because I think I would be dead soon.
Regards
Your right domestic live stock slaughter is a bit different from hunting. But as a butcher by trade I seen 1000 or so steers , hogs , cows ect dropped with a 22lr.
The job is best done with a round nose no hollow point. The hollow points open too fast and don't give the penetration.
I have personally dropped escaped steers and one cow that could not be caught, with a single 22lr.
If shot properly it stones them.
The best shot is from the back approx. "2 inch's or so below the knob on top of the head where the horns grow out from (horn boss)
For this shot it is better to have a slight down angle to reduce the fear of skipping the bullet. I have done this shot twice on steers (1000-1400 lbs) from the back of a pickup truck at 30-40 yrds
Alternately from the front, "1 inch either side of center and just above center forehead.
The danger of a dead center shot is the bullet can go between the two hemispheres of the brain , and not do enough damage.
I would prefer a larger gun for the job , but I would have no problem hunting pigs with a 22lr personally.
A steady hand and some knowledge will get the job done.
I do agree that a shotgun with buck shot would NOT be my choice , due to the fact I could not be guaranteed that even 1 of the balls would hit exactly where I would want it. a broad side shot on ribs of a hog wild or domestic past 10 yrds would scare the ####e of of me ! because I think I would be dead soon.
Regards
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Again how many of those 1000's were taken at bad angles with brush and other crap in the way And at any kind of distance you would really end up shooting something wild at?
A cow is not a wild bore either, brain size is not even close.
Hey jeff000 you sure have a hard on for a argument don't you ! If you read my post I actually said I have seen 1000 or so animals killed with a .22 not "thousands" as you have paraphrased on my behalf.
I also said domestic killing is different than hunting. Maybe you missed that part also ?
Your correct a brain in a cow is a different size than the brain of a wild bore. That is why I said steers, """HOGS""" cows ect.
Bore-Hog , Bore-Hog see the simularity ?? (wild piggy-domestic piggy) very simular brain size both piggy's
You are very correct that there is no brush or debris in the way of a slaughterhouse kill floor. That would not be very safe would it ! But when in the bush I don't exactly adopt the spray and pray type of shooting through trees and brush. I do actually take clear shot that get the job done. Or I pass the shot up. Ive done that many times.
I also pointed out that I have dispatched cattle with a .22 from 30-40 yrds in the open. Have you ?? Probably not but I may stand corrected , maybe you have. If so what was your success rate ?
I'm 4-0 on it in the open field no branches in the way or alien spacecraft or any other stuff you can think of to perpetuate this circular discussion.
The only reason I have used a .22 on cattle in the open is due to where they had moved to after escape was near town and discretion was required. Other wise it would have been a center fire.
I have split in half a 1000 or so (not thousands) skulls of slaughtered animals to render them down ( remove cheek meat, eyes ,brains, tongue and pituitary gland) , I know how thick skulls are . Do You ?
In case you were not able to figure out what my post was saying I'll lay it out for you and all other naysayers with little to no experience with a .22 on larger game.
-Kill floor different than hunt in bush
-A .22 can get the job done
-Me see cow and piggy die by .22 in kill chute and open place outside.
-hollow point bullet bad choice
-Me done it.
-Me would go hunt wild piggy with a .22 (bigger gun better but , I would do it.)
-me no shoot if bush in way.
-Me no like idea shoot piggy with shot gun , think piggy get mad and kill me. Make me sad to die.
-Me like idea bigger gun. But still think .22 can do it if do in good shot. no tree in way.
Additional thought on this topic would be.
Tree stand good idea.
Bigger gun better idea.
Wild pig very tasty I like em. Had it in Florida.
I also said domestic killing is different than hunting. Maybe you missed that part also ?
Your correct a brain in a cow is a different size than the brain of a wild bore. That is why I said steers, """HOGS""" cows ect.
Bore-Hog , Bore-Hog see the simularity ?? (wild piggy-domestic piggy) very simular brain size both piggy's
You are very correct that there is no brush or debris in the way of a slaughterhouse kill floor. That would not be very safe would it ! But when in the bush I don't exactly adopt the spray and pray type of shooting through trees and brush. I do actually take clear shot that get the job done. Or I pass the shot up. Ive done that many times.
I also pointed out that I have dispatched cattle with a .22 from 30-40 yrds in the open. Have you ?? Probably not but I may stand corrected , maybe you have. If so what was your success rate ?
I'm 4-0 on it in the open field no branches in the way or alien spacecraft or any other stuff you can think of to perpetuate this circular discussion.
The only reason I have used a .22 on cattle in the open is due to where they had moved to after escape was near town and discretion was required. Other wise it would have been a center fire.
I have split in half a 1000 or so (not thousands) skulls of slaughtered animals to render them down ( remove cheek meat, eyes ,brains, tongue and pituitary gland) , I know how thick skulls are . Do You ?
In case you were not able to figure out what my post was saying I'll lay it out for you and all other naysayers with little to no experience with a .22 on larger game.
-Kill floor different than hunt in bush
-A .22 can get the job done
-Me see cow and piggy die by .22 in kill chute and open place outside.
-hollow point bullet bad choice
-Me done it.
-Me would go hunt wild piggy with a .22 (bigger gun better but , I would do it.)
-me no shoot if bush in way.
-Me no like idea shoot piggy with shot gun , think piggy get mad and kill me. Make me sad to die.
-Me like idea bigger gun. But still think .22 can do it if do in good shot. no tree in way.
Additional thought on this topic would be.
Tree stand good idea.
Bigger gun better idea.
Wild pig very tasty I like em. Had it in Florida.
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what im getting at is the wild hogs are about the same as the domestic pig that thin spot should be the same rember thay did escape affter all when a pig does not have the tail cut or teeth cliped thay grow and will be the same as the wild hogs most meat pigs dont live over a year so there teeth do not have time to get that big
a 00 (.330") buckshot only needs to be moving at 350fps to be lethal to a human the same would go for a pig
a 00 (.330") buckshot only needs to be moving at 350fps to be lethal to a human the same would go for a pig
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I took a 260 lb boar Here in Alberta one 3006 a chunk of spine he ran away I finished him with a 4570 they are tough very tough but tasty
Good, a hog hunting thread ! I want to do this. Canada would be nice but the US is where the big boys lurk !
What are the favoured "hog loads?" .30-30, .308, shotguns with slugs !
And, were can we do this ? This is something I really want to try
What are the favoured "hog loads?" .30-30, .308, shotguns with slugs !
And, were can we do this ? This is something I really want to try
I missed out on an opportunity to go hog hunting in Florida a couple years ago by 1 day. I met a guy that would take me out , but it was the day after we were leaving.
I definetly had enough gun with me. I had taken my Rem, 700 in 35 Whelan down to work on some loads.
He had a big group of them in a orange grove he was allowed to hunt.
Maybe next time.
I definetly had enough gun with me. I had taken my Rem, 700 in 35 Whelan down to work on some loads.
He had a big group of them in a orange grove he was allowed to hunt.
Maybe next time.
A couple of old army friends and I want to get together for the first time and hunt. Hogs were suggested because there are suppossedly more seasons available (around North America), and/ or in some areas they were hunted becasue they were considered pests. That, and I believe they taste better than a gopher, when cooked over a spit. Although, I'll probably be inundated with angry e-mails from Sask-Alta Gopher hunters...filled with Gopher recipies...Any Canadian connections/ links for Hog hunting in Canada would be greatly appreciated.
My 2 cents on firepower for wild hogs ? Being a complete novice on shooting these animals I figure I'd be safe, for my own and the piggies sake, of using a .30 30 or a shotgun with slugs. I'd hate to wound one of those suckers with an underpowered round and have to track it !
My 2 cents on firepower for wild hogs ? Being a complete novice on shooting these animals I figure I'd be safe, for my own and the piggies sake, of using a .30 30 or a shotgun with slugs. I'd hate to wound one of those suckers with an underpowered round and have to track it !
Sorry for adding the "'s" it was an oversight.
My point is still valid, just because you have seen a 1000 animals in a controlled environment having been killed this way does not make you an expert in killing them in the wild. Sure you have the upper hand in knowing exactly what their skulls and vitals look like far better then just about anyone, but that doesn't change the fact that a controlled environment and an uncontrolled environment are hugely different.
I have never shot a cow or a steer or any bovine for that matter, no idea if they will be running buck wild all over the place or be calm. Although I would imagine they would be somewhat calm as hitting a bucking bull from the rodeo would be one hell of a feat. But that is speculation.
If you are so near town that using a center fire is a bad idea then the odds are that the .22 was a bad idea too, they can travel a very far distance.
Also as I said, I am sure that a .22 has killed just about everything on the planet at one time of another, outside maybe stuff in the ocean.
Please go hunt them with a .22 if you want, hell do it with a single shot .22 if you want.
EDIT, I should add, I did see that you posted bigger is better. And again I have not said that you can not kill them with a .22, which is why I am arguing my point. You seem to just be banging home the point that you can kill them with a .22, which again I have never said you couldn't. I would heed the experience of people that actually hunt boars over a farmer or butcher with theoretical experience.
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