Henry 357 bigboy x LOP

[bravo252]

Hi guys!

I just got a 357 bigboy x and put 3x prism scope on her. Now I have an issue with LOP cause the scope has very short eye relief. The butt stock has quite thick rubber butt pad which is little too much for either 38spl or 357 mag.

Anyone have idea to replace the pad with any thin alternatives?

Thanks in advance,

Sean

 

[Suther]

Well you could go the tried-and-tested route of the flipflop recoil pad. If its anything like my Henry Single Shot's butt pad you'd knock about 1/2" off the length with that.

Does Henry make a youth-sized gun that uses the same stock? I contacted Henry about buying a youth-size stock for my Single Shot, they sent me one for free! Only paid like $35 in duty/handling fees and it took an inch off my LOP.

Otherwise, I'd look into making a plastic butt plate for it, buy a 1/4" thick piece of delrin and shape it to fit. 6"x12" piece of 1/4" thick delrin is $70 on Amazon, can probably find it cheaper? I dunno, never had to buy some...

 

[bravo252]

Thank you, sir!!

 

[Suther]

Brass or steel would also be options for making a buttplate. Or perhaps even a buttplate from a different rifle, cut/shaped to fit. I'd get a chuckle out of a "Winchester" buttplate on a Henry rifle lol

 

[AlphaCharlieDelta]

Buy a cheap Delrin cutting board. Cut it out to the shape, then heat gun and screw on to contour. Dremel to remove any sharp edges.
Voila! New butt in whatever thickness and color you happened to buy your cutting board in!

Cheers!
ACD

Edit: Don't use your spouses favorite cutting board. Tension might ensue if you due....

 

[bravo252]

Thanks all!!

 

[alpining]

I just got a 357 bigboy x and put 3x prism scope on her. Now I have an issue with LOP cause the scope has very short eye relief. ...

I've always wondered why Henry insists on putting those ridiculous buttpads on so many of their rifles. The steel or brass or plastic buttpad ideas above would be ideal IMO. But note that attachment hardware for a plastic stock like your rifle's can be pad-specific.

But even so, I'm not sure that would get your eye close enough to your optic. Can you confirm if just changing the buttpad will do the trick?

Of course, you could always use an optic with longer eye relief.

 

[bravo252]

I've always wondered why Henry insists on putting those ridiculous buttpads on so many of their rifles. The steel or brass or plastic buttpad ideas above would be ideal IMO. But note that attachment hardware for a plastic stock like your rifle's can be pad-specific.

But even so, I'm not sure that would get your eye close enough to your optic. Can you confirm if just changing the buttpad will do the trick?

Of course, you could always use an optic with longer eye relief.

It will definitely help, but chick weld will be little akward. I put a lpvo at the beginning, and it was little too heavy. Therefore, bought a vortex prism, and it is also akward with eye relief. May be put a red dot until I solve this.

 

[Winz]

Hi guys!

I just got a 357 bigboy x and put 3x prism scope on her. Now I have an issue with LOP cause the scope has very short eye relief. The butt stock has quite thick rubber butt pad which is little too much for either 38spl or 357 mag.

Anyone have idea to replace the pad with any thin alternatives?

Thanks in advance,

Sean

I've always wondered why Henry insists on putting those ridiculous buttpads on so many of their rifles. The steel or brass or plastic buttpad ideas above would be ideal IMO. But note that attachment hardware for a plastic stock like your rifle's can be pad-specific.

But even so, I'm not sure that would get your eye close enough to your optic. Can you confirm if just changing the buttpad will do the trick?

Of course, you could always use an optic with longer eye relief.

I disagree with both assessment and the proposed solution.

The issue isn't the LOP of the rifle. That is based on the stature proportions of the shooter. The issue is the mounting of the optic, ie in having a comfortable head position for the short eye relief. How is the optic mounted? How can it be adjusted? Is your head position even good in relation to the stock in the first place? That's where the effort should go rather than changing the stock dimensions to fit the optic.

 

[alpining]

...The issue isn't the LOP of the rifle. That is based on the stature proportions of the shooter. The issue is the mounting of the optic, ie in having a comfortable head position for the short eye relief. How is the optic mounted?...

Mostly agree - This model comes with a picatinny rail that mounts on top of the receiver. You can mount an optic right at the rear of the receiver. Assuming he's done that, if he's sticking with the optic he's chosen, the limiting factor becomes the length of the buttstock.

 

[alpining]

It will definitely help, but chick weld will be little akward. I put a lpvo at the beginning, and it was little too heavy. Therefore, bought a vortex prism, and it is also akward with eye relief. May be put a red dot until I solve this.

I don't see a cheek weld being a realistic prospect with the setup you have, but you never know until you try! I think it'll be more about getting close enough to the optic to use whatever eyebox you have to work with.

If you're open to alternatives, a different optic may be the "best" solution. A more traditional hunting scope would probably work great (maybe a compact variable scope), and tick all of the boxes except the tacticool one...

 

[bravo252]

Mostly agree - This model comes with a picatinny rail that mounts on top of the receiver. You can mount an optic right at the rear of the receiver. Assuming he's done that, if he's sticking with the optic he's chosen, the limiting factor becomes the length of the buttstock.

Yes, you exactly got it.

 

[Winz]

bravo252 what kind of optic are you even trying to mount? I maintain that changing the LOP is the wrong way to go about it but if you really have eye relief issues with the optic, you really should consider a different mounting option (eg a cantilever/offset mount) or going to a different optic. However, I would also say you need to evaluate whether your head position is even good. No one knows your biomechanics or has seen pictures but it seems odd that even with a rearward mounting of your current optic, your eyes are still too far for the proper sight picture.