Henry u.s. survival rifle AR-7
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very picky on ammo, i picked up a charter arms AR7, didnt care for it at all. felt cheap, i use a cooey 39 now. its more solid, cost less, and handles any type of ammo you can feed it.
stock comes apart from the action easy enough.
stock comes apart from the action easy enough.
yellowknifedave
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- Somewhere in SK.....
Mine is no troub le; has fired everything I tried, and accurate too. I have a buddy that had trouble, Henry sent him a new barrel (via a US colleague), but I never found out if it fixed the problem.
I haven't used it in ages, but for the purpose, it is good. (mine was anyways)
I haven't used it in ages, but for the purpose, it is good. (mine was anyways)
Ar7
I've owned a couple different AR7's and Marlin Papoose's over the yrs.
The AR 7 is an excellent design hampered by poor quality of materials and manufacture.
It is made of cast metal and stampings with poor tolerances.
The ones I've owned and shot have all been spotty with function and all are poor in the accuracy department.
The mags are also of poor quality which contributes to the function problem.
They have been around a long while and some were better in terms of build quality and operation. Not sure what the correlation is here but it is for sure.
I found using quality copper jacketed solid nose bullets in the upper velocity range worked pretty well. Bare lead nose bullets jammed regularily as well as hollowpoints.
The design is fantastic. It takes down/up in seconds, is very compact either down or up, is very lightweight, and of course is waterproof and floats when broken down.
I have always hoped Ruger would build something similar. The design concepts of the AR7 built by Ruger or maybe Marlin would be perfect!
As for the Marlin Papoose. The 2 I've owned have functioned and shot like all Marlins products I have owned/used.....excellent.
Mine were very accurate, functioned consistently well.
I stuck to jacketed conventional high velocity hollowpoints.
I would reccomend a Papoose highly.
It's only drawback is that it needs a case to contain itself when dissasembled. The parts are loose in the case and prone to getting lost and or dropped in the snow/water/grass when taking it out of the case and assembling. If the Papoose broke down into itself like the AR7 it would be Great!
A shorter barrel would be good too.
Another thing.....These rifles would be far better in bolt action format IMO.
No mag to lose, no feeding/function worries, ammo could then vary from shotshells to hyperV with abandon! A properly designed single shot could suffice maybe too?
RUGER..are you listening?? PLEASE build a 22lr take down plastic/stainless rifle that houses itself and floats!!!
I've owned a couple different AR7's and Marlin Papoose's over the yrs.
The AR 7 is an excellent design hampered by poor quality of materials and manufacture.
It is made of cast metal and stampings with poor tolerances.
The ones I've owned and shot have all been spotty with function and all are poor in the accuracy department.
The mags are also of poor quality which contributes to the function problem.
They have been around a long while and some were better in terms of build quality and operation. Not sure what the correlation is here but it is for sure.
I found using quality copper jacketed solid nose bullets in the upper velocity range worked pretty well. Bare lead nose bullets jammed regularily as well as hollowpoints.
The design is fantastic. It takes down/up in seconds, is very compact either down or up, is very lightweight, and of course is waterproof and floats when broken down.
I have always hoped Ruger would build something similar. The design concepts of the AR7 built by Ruger or maybe Marlin would be perfect!
As for the Marlin Papoose. The 2 I've owned have functioned and shot like all Marlins products I have owned/used.....excellent.
Mine were very accurate, functioned consistently well.
I stuck to jacketed conventional high velocity hollowpoints.
I would reccomend a Papoose highly.
It's only drawback is that it needs a case to contain itself when dissasembled. The parts are loose in the case and prone to getting lost and or dropped in the snow/water/grass when taking it out of the case and assembling. If the Papoose broke down into itself like the AR7 it would be Great!
A shorter barrel would be good too.
Another thing.....These rifles would be far better in bolt action format IMO.
No mag to lose, no feeding/function worries, ammo could then vary from shotshells to hyperV with abandon! A properly designed single shot could suffice maybe too?
RUGER..are you listening?? PLEASE build a 22lr take down plastic/stainless rifle that houses itself and floats!!!
i have had a couple Charter Arms AR-7's. I believe the primary difference is the alloy sleeved barrel rather than plastic sleeved barrel
When clean and lubed, they are both 100% reliable with high velocity ammo.
If you attempt to plink with them, they quickly get fouled and will start to have problems after a couple hundred rounds.
They are more than 'survival' accurate, for potting grouse, ptarmigan, rabbits, marmots etc.
I have no experience with the Henry made version, though I have no hesitation recommending a Charter Arms version, as long as you do not try to compare its performance to a 10/22 or a CZ 452.
When clean and lubed, they are both 100% reliable with high velocity ammo.
If you attempt to plink with them, they quickly get fouled and will start to have problems after a couple hundred rounds.
They are more than 'survival' accurate, for potting grouse, ptarmigan, rabbits, marmots etc.
I have no experience with the Henry made version, though I have no hesitation recommending a Charter Arms version, as long as you do not try to compare its performance to a 10/22 or a CZ 452.
I was looking at both but ran into a Winchester 1906 takedown pump at the last gun show. $250 and it is a real designed breakdown action. This one was made in 1937 and shoots anything like a house on fire. Aside from that is a supremely FUN gun. When I take it to the range there is always someone drooling. Lots around just dont let someone sell you a burnt barrel. Not to mention supremely reliable.
I'm working on something like that pistol grip, but may be a bit of a time in completing it....
I have an Armalite version. I purchased it cheap and it is a toss-about rifle for canoeing, hiking etc. It is light and easy to carry. I don't shoot boxes and boxes of ammo through it, but when I do plink with it, it has always worked well and is reasonably accurate.
