Here is how to clean after corrosive ammo

People have many different ways of " cleaning " after shooting corrosive ammo. You'll know if "your" way doesn't work very well !!!!

I do not shoot corrosive ammo in my rifles -- use to and I used the hot - not boiling - and soapy water treatment -- never had a problem with rust in the bore that way
 
I believe some newer commercial bore cleaners will deal with corrosive ammo
just can't remember which ones -- my excuse I'm old
 
Cam_S said:
HAHA,

In reality they are from the Great War era. They are either British or Commonwealth troops from the uniforms. Also they are either Cavalry or Artillery by the use of the Ammo Belt.

Unfortunatly due to the quality of the picture, you can not tell the regiment or specific country.

The rifles they are holding are Lee Enfield No 1 Mk 3. The funnel was a special funnel desgned for them. So to answer your question, the funnels are not used today. As for the Ammo, all War time, either WW1 or WW2 ammo was corrosive for all countries. It was much cheaper to produce that non-corrosive.

Cam

I just bought one of those funnels...$20 Canadian. They have more...(said in a Fat Bastard chicken voice...) :D
 
amonia

i take it amonia will do the trick? I use sweets 7.62 wonder if this will do the trick, as i pretty well gag every time I use it
 
GrantR said:
That's why the chap who is likely an NCO is standing there on the left - to make them do it! ;)

Also this would certainly not be something done "during battle" - but always after musketry practice ... and "as soon as possible" following firing in the field.

FWIW, this is exactly what one of these funnels looks like (apologies for the lens distortion making the ruler appear curved ... :rolleyes: )

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My goodness! you are a bundle of the obtuse and wonderfully rare! If the funnel (and a few other goodies I've seen you post up) are any indication of your rec room at home, I could spend a few deliriously happy hours perusing your collection.:D
 
Cocked&Locked:

I'm actually falling hopelessly behind in my quest to have at least one of everything! :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:

Also, I definitely must get serious about organizing and cataloguing all this stuff, or I'll end up with a real disaster later on! :runaway: :redface:
 
GrantR said:
Cocked&Locked:

I'm actually falling hopelessly behind in my quest to have at least one of everything! :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:

Also, I definitely must get serious about organizing and cataloguing all this stuff, or I'll end up with a real disaster later on! :runaway: :redface:


Fly me out and I'll give you a hand. I promise not to wear the coat with big deep pockets.

One of everything eh? I gotta introduce you to my wife so she could see me in a better perspective, I only want one of every other thing....:rolleyes:
 
cantom's very brief post was rather too cryptic ... what he is saying is that John Denner apparently has them ... :rolleyes:

Denner's site is currently down temporarily (he sent out an e-mail warning of it) but hopefully will be back online later today or tomorrow ...

http://www.denner.ca/

I got mine some time ago from Jean Plamondon at P&S Guns & Militaria, don't know if he still has them -they'd be listed in "Miscellaneous" ... http://psmilitaria.50megs.com/

Also there is a Canadian who regulalry has them for sale on eBay with a start price of US$9.99 ... search "enfield funnel"
 
curtton said:
nice pic but how about some more info, which army? and why would they use corrosive ammo? and do they use them now?

Until after WW2 and beyond, EVERYBODY used corrosive primed ammo, (the ONLY exception was the M1 Carbine)

Why boiling hot water? because it expands the microscopic cracks that every barrel has in the bore and washes out the salts. I don't see why ammonia would do anything, it's the water it's mixed with. ammonia is for copper deposits in the bore. BUY THE FUNNEL if you are going to shoot milsurp. It works with ANY bolt action rifle.
Oh by the way, I found out the HARD WAY about holding the rifle properly! Had to grit my teeth because I didn't want to drop the rifle when the funnel overflowed. POUR SLOWLY:eek:
 
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JHC-II said:
So is it really necessary to use boiling water after using corrosive ammo????:eek:
Not if you think a rusty bore looks good;)

Oh by the way, military bore cleaner today is for Non corrosive ammo. different formula from the WW2 stuff.
 
John Sukey said:
Not if you think a rusty bore looks good;)

Oh by the way, military bore cleaner today is for Non corrosive ammo. different formula from the WW2 stuff.

If the water is boiling from the kettle, it heats the barrel enough it drys up almost as soon as the water is done running out. Gotta put a quart or two through. Works great. Amonia will disolve the salts as well, some swear buy windex with amonia, but the one time I used it I came back the next day and found rust in my Mk 5 :(
 
Those funnels look cool and are very handy, but use a piece of PVC pipe over the end that fits into the chamber.

I don't know if they originally came with an end tip or not, but the edge of the galvanised stem will scratch a chamber.

Not only that, but the PVC pipe, if warmed up before inserting into the chamber, provides a fairly good seal and you don't have to worry about spillage into the bedding areas. bearunter
 
Ammonia does nto dissolve nitrate salts. Period. It's the water in the windex that flushes the salts. The ammonia just get started on the copper fouling until you get home to your solvent bottle ;)
 
John Sukey said:
Until after WW2 and beyond, EVERYBODY used corrosive primed ammo, (the ONLY exception was the M1 Carbine)

Why boiling hot water? because it expands the microscopic cracks that every barrel has in the bore and washes out the salts. I don't see why ammonia would do anything, it's the water it's mixed with. ammonia is for copper deposits in the bore. BUY THE FUNNEL if you are going to shoot milsurp. It works with ANY bolt action rifle.
Oh by the way, I found out the HARD WAY about holding the rifle properly! Had to grit my teeth because I didn't want to drop the rifle when the funnel overflowed. POUR SLOWLY:eek:

i was asking why corrosive ammo was made when non-corrosive was available(for M1)? i never understood why, was there an advantage ? cheaper to make maybe?

i do use milsurp ammo , i tie the barrel over the laundry tub, bolt and other pieces in a basket below it, boil a litre of water in an elecetric kettle with a bit of dish soap and pour down the chamber, i dont mind the spills bcos i figure that there is some residue on the outside. i proceed with usual cleaning after it cools.
 
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