Here's one to test the experts, calling Smellie!

YOU WIN THE "CGN GOAT." It will be delivered to your house within a week.

The original poster's pictures were taken from "images of the Durst rifle" when "googled" on the internet. Good Thread of a pre-1900 era interesting rifle.

Actually the pictures were taken from a auction that just ended yesterday in the US, this rifle went for $5750 + 8% tax.
 
The concept of penetrating torpedo boat, was part of the reason the US Navy adopted the 6mm Lee straight pull rifle.
Many countries in their search for a smokeless powder rifle tested rifles as small as 6mm.
Mexico tested a 5.2x68mm rifle.
 
Smellie got stumped on a Milsurp question?

Never thought I would see the day...

I cry foul...FOUL! I SAY! Smellie is still the king. A rifle that was almost a milsurp doesn't count! ;)

*edit*Actually, this thread ought to be moved from this forum with the utmost of prejudices' {the nerve, a rifle that wants to be a milsurp...ridicules. "grumble, b1tch, grumble"}


Joke:wave:
 
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The Durst rifle submitted to the USN Board of 1895 was withdrawn after the receiver failed in a high pressure test. It was in 6mm cal.
It is surprising that no Mauser, Mannlicher, Berthier, Lee Metford or other succesful designs were submitted.
The Luger rifle used the Gew 88 bolt with a modified safety and a magazine that did not require mannlicher clips.
The Durst was also submitted to the 1892 US Army Board. It was withdrawn after several cartridges cracked allowing gas to strike the operators face.
 
The Durst rifle submitted to the USN Board of 1895 was withdrawn after the receiver failed in a high pressure test. It was in 6mm cal.
It is surprising that no Mauser, Mannlicher, Berthier, Lee Metford or other succesful designs were submitted.
The Luger rifle used the Gew 88 bolt with a modified safety and a magazine that did not require mannlicher clips.
The Durst was also submitted to the 1892 US Army Board. It was withdrawn after several cartridges cracked allowing gas to strike the operators face.

Say what now? The Luger rifle most definitely did not use any part of the old Gew 88. It was a toggle action rifle much like his pistol, except larger to suit the 8x57 cartridge.

Edit: I take that back, there apparently was a Luger rifle based on the Gew 88. Different rifle from the one I am thinking of.
 
Arms submitted to the USN trials are listed in "The Winchester Lee Rifle" ,Myskowski, with asynopsis of the trial results. The Luger rifle illustrated looks like a Gew88 with an unjacketed barrel, half length wood handguard and "safety mounted on the side of the magazine".
 
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