Heritage Rough Rider 16" revolver for the guy who doesn't have everything 175.47USD

phillyblt said:
Any 18.6 NR ones for the NR guys?? :)
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That’s actually a really good point.

At what point does the barrel barrel become so ridiculously long that it’s not a handgun anymore?

It’s not about barrel length, because you can have a 10/22 with a 7” barrel and it’s still NR.

As this is rimfire, barrel length shouldn’t matter and it should actually be above the overall length of a non-restricted firearm.

If it’s close to the overall length, then why not go the extra mile and make one with the most absurd barrel length required to make it NR?
 
Petamocto said:
That’s actually a really good point.

At what point does the barrel barrel become so ridiculously long that it’s not a handgun anymore?

It’s not about barrel length, because you can have a 10/22 with a 7” barrel and it’s still NR.

As this is rimfire, barrel length shouldn’t matter and it should actually be above the overall length of a non-restricted firearm.

If it’s close to the overall length, then why not go the extra mile and make one with the most absurd barrel length required to make it NR?
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Because heritage makes them for the US market, not for the Canadian market.
 
Petamocto said:
At what point does the barrel barrel become so ridiculously long that it’s not a handgun anymore?...If it’s close to the overall length, then why not go the extra mile and make one with the most absurd barrel length required to make it NR?
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It's not the barrel/overall length that's the problem with these, it's the grip. With that revolver grip, it will be deemed a handgun regardless of any other properties you change.
 
hastings1066 said:
It's not the barrel/overall length that's the problem with these, it's the grip. With that revolver grip, it will be deemed a handgun regardless of any other properties you change.
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Its the frame, actually. (which might be what you are meaning by grip?)

If it is built on a handgun frame, it is always a handgun regardless of how long the barrel is, whether you put a full stock on it, etc.

This is why things like the Alfa Proj carbine, or Rossi Circuit Judge Rifle are Restricted regardless of the fact they have full stocks and the Rossi can even be had with an 18.5" barrel.
 
Petamocto said:
If it’s close to the overall length, then why not go the extra mile and make one with the most absurd barrel length required to make it NR?
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hastings1066 said:
It's not the barrel/overall length that's the problem with these, it's the grip. With that revolver grip, it will be deemed a handgun regardless of any other properties you change.
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Suther said:
Its the frame, actually. (which might be what you are meaning by grip?)

If it is built on a handgun frame, it is always a handgun regardless of how long the barrel is, whether you put a full stock on it, etc.

This is why things like the Alfa Proj carbine, or Rossi Circuit Judge Rifle are Restricted regardless of the fact they have full stocks and the Rossi can even be had with an 18.5" barrel.
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with that idea, the Browning Buckmark rifle would be R instead of NR.

iirc the handgun definition is 'designed to be used with one hand' ???
 
257hunter said:
I believe the browning uses a different frame for the rifle version. You can't just unbolt it and attach a pistol grip like you can with the others mentioned.
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I believe you are correct, the Buckmark rifle has that big circular hoop on the back where the stock attaches to. The other guns just have grips with stocks, the stock is not a separate part from the grip in any way.

By building the Buckmark rifle on a frame that is different from the pistol frame they can be NR in Canada, whereas the Rossi and Alfa Proj "rifles" are the same frame as their revolvers and thus handguns regardless of the presence of a stock.
 
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