Herters warning

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Out at the range today taking a brand new Glock 21 for a maiden voyage.
Ammo: Herters 45acp 230 grain.

Approximately 13 rounds had recoiled much harder than typical. This was my first glock experience. However when one round recoiled significantly harder and was audibly louder I saftied the firearm and began looking for brass.

Findings: multiple spent casings with lines where the brass had buckled and one casing which had a concentric split and another split top to bottom. The brass looked very weak and thin.

I'm aware that Herters / Winchester have just had multiple recalls. Winchester has been made aware of this. The ammunition lot # is SH32L16.

Maybe its isolated but by the look of the brass I'm lucky it didnt result in a catastrophic failure.

Just a heads up to all you 45 acp shooters. If you're shooting from this lot maybe pay extra close attention.20211028_124731.jpg20211028_174033.jpg20211028_173934.jpg
 

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Interesting... I picked up a piece of 45Acp brass off the floor at the range last weekend, and split completely down one side. Herter's marked "USA 45". There was a bunch more of it on the floor, all once fired, not even tempted after seeing that. Anyone who tries reloading that stuff, is in for a very nasty surprise.
 
Just looked at my Outdoor Canada "West" edition. Winchester has an "revised" full page add dealing with the recall of many lots of 9mm Luger 115 grain ammo.

Roy
 
There was a recall on Herters 45 ACP ammo not long ago. Looks like some of it made it out the door. I know Cabela's quarantined a pallet load of it; got pulled off the shelf. To the best of my knowledge, its rebranded Winchester white box.
 
Amazing. I checked on their website and I can not find any mention of 45acp recall, but with what I saw and what you all are saying it sure looks like this is the case.

Winchester has contacted me and requested the casings / boxes / remaining ammunition for an investigation. I'll definitely comply.
As soon as I switched it over to federal premium (old stock) I had pure consistency in recoil.

The good that's come out of this - My faith in Glock not going kaboom has Increased.
 
marksman762 said:
Amazing. I checked on their website and I can not find any mention of 45acp recall, but with what I saw and what you all are saying it sure looks like this is the case.

Winchester has contacted me and requested the casings / boxes / remaining ammunition for an investigation. I'll definitely comply.
As soon as I switched it over to federal premium (old stock) I had pure consistency in recoil.

The good that's come out of this - My faith in Glock not going kaboom has Increased.
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Thanks for sharing and especially the photos which definitely will give me second thoughts as I was consider buying this ammo. I have ran WWB before and it is pretty dirty, but I also noticed some inconsistencies - there were a couple of bullets that were recessed into the casing significantly compared to the others. I did check the recall earlier this year and it looks like it is for 115gr 9mm only, which I had but mine was much older.

Hopefully Winchester will replace those boxes of yours or give you some sort of credit towards a future purchase.

I try to avoid Winchester these days for non-shotgun stuff. The only Winchester I have in my stash now are 20ga AA target rounds as well as the 12ga PDX1 Defender rounds.
 
The recoil felt more like a 357. In a few of them. I was not sure if it was the grip size of the Glock 21 which was giving me difficulty to hold on but those few which kicked hard enough caused my support hand to break grip. I do not have weak hands.
All that's left to do is see how it plays out!
 
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