Heym Ruger #1 with Kahles 3-9 scope OPINIONS NEEDED!

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So, I drove all the way home grinning from the gun show today. I found a rare beast, a Heym-Ruger, I believe it is the HR30 model. As I understand it, Heym took Ruger actions and/or barreled actions and built beauties out of them. This one came to be in 1982, and is in .243 Winchester. The buttstock is a standard Ruger style, albeit in outstanding wood, but the forend is an actual schnabel-style, which I think suits it really well. The interesting thing is the scope and mount. The scope is an older all-steel Kahles Super Helia 3-9X42. It is first focal plane (pretty standard back then), with the German #4 reticle. The power change ring actually has detents at each power level, which I've never seen before. The mount appears to be an EAW pivot mount with lever. You swing the lever up, push the button, and then turn the scope 90 degrees, and out she comes! Apparently it is a slam-dunk for re-zeroing, too. Despite my lack of fondness for the calibre, I am super stoked to shoot this thing. Take a look at one of the pics, and you will see the German proof marks, indicating that it was proofed in Munich. Really cool!




 
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Neat - that is only the second one I have ever seen. The other was engraved and chambered for .375 H&H
 
Very nice find... Particularly if you shoot it... I hate to see fine weapons stored in cabinets... It is like having a labrador retriever for a lapdog...
 
Ohh, me likey.

You people are doing horrible things to my budget. Just when I decide to stick with Handi Rifles along comes another thread about No.1s.
 
Update: it does not seem to be the HR 30 model, as they have a different butt, engraving, etc. I am also doubting that it is an actual Heym, as the barrel still carries the Ruger message, which Heyms didn't. I think perhaps it was made up in the same style in Germany by someone else, but I really don't know.
 
I know, I know. It's hard when you see that good of a deal, because you feel bad for the seller, but I will utilize the rifle well, rest safe in that knowledge. To be fair, I sold a guy my Benelli Super Nova Tactical 14" for only $550 to give him his first shotgun, so I feel like I was paying it forward a little.
 
Hello,

very very nice rifle.

just by curiosity do you have somewhere written on the barrel Suhl or Krupp ?

it looks EAW but it is not (i may be wrong of course). the ones we had and all have seen were with a smaller lever.

again nice rifle.
 
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gabrielguitars said:
Update: it does not seem to be the HR 30 model, as they have a different butt, engraving, etc. I am also doubting that it is an actual Heym, as the barrel still carries the Ruger message, which Heyms didn't. I think perhaps it was made up in the same style in Germany by someone else, but I really don't know.
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I share your doubts... the style of the buttstock and checkering look standard Ruger to me, and someone's converted the Alex Henry forearm into a schnabel. Except for the German proof marks and the scope mounts, it looks very standard 1A to me. The early ones had very nice wood.
 
I just checked my "ruger#1" book and it says the heym #1's were stocked and barreled by heym. The pictures of the stocks shown are obliviously not ruger stocks, nor is the barrel or sights.

However, it mentions a firm in Switzerland that also build off the #1. The info on these is scarce but they used the factory rear stock, and the forend looks very much like yours. The examples shown in my book have different bases and sights - so I am unsure of what yours actually is aswell.

Neat rifle no matter who built it, if you don't mind I would like to forward the pictures to a guy I know in the US.
 
The EAW mounts are great for transport and have returned to zero every time for me. Lots of people know nothing of them or I would expect they would be more common
 
Sure Doublegun, go ahead. Any chance that I can find out more about this is a chance I'll take! At first I thought the forend was simply reshaped, but further inspection seems to say no, that it was made that way. I'm curious about the Swiss angle, could be interesting. The barrel is all Ruger, with no Suhl or other markings that are out of the ordinary, other than the proofs.
 
Brian46 said:
The EAW mounts are great for transport and have returned to zero every time for me. Lots of people know nothing of them or I would expect they would be more common
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They are fantastic and have held up well on rifles of mine up to .416 RM (biggest I have owned). I suspect the price - around $500 - turns many people off.
 
gabrielguitars said:
Sure Doublegun, go ahead. Any chance that I can find out more about this is a chance I'll take! At first I thought the forend was simply reshaped, but further inspection seems to say no, that it was made that way. I'm curious about the Swiss angle, could be interesting. The barrel is all Ruger, with no Suhl or other markings that are out of the ordinary, other than the proofs.
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Thanks, I will forward them and see what he has to say. The Swiss company mentioned was/is called "petitpierre et grisel s.a." but as mentioned the examples shown in the book had different bases, and sights. If it wasn't for the barrel markings on yours I would say it was just a custom someone had made, but those marks throw me off. I will let you know what I find out, if anything.
 
medvedqc said:
Brian they are good but they are not alone on the market.
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sure there are other brands, but you don't see many people using high quality quick release mounts much, options are also more limited depending on scope

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gabrielguitars said:
So, I drove all the way home grinning from the gun show today. I found a rare beast, a Heym-Ruger, I believe it is the HR30 model. As I understand it, Heym took Ruger actions and/or barreled actions and built beauties out of them. This one came to be in 1982, and is in .243 Winchester. The buttstock is a standard Ruger style, albeit in outstanding wood, but the forend is an actual schnabel-style, which I think suits it really well. The interesting thing is the scope and mount. The scope is an older all-steel Kahles Super Helia 3-9X42. It is first focal plane (pretty standard back then), with the German #4 reticle. The power change ring actually has detents at each power level, which I've never seen before. The mount appears to be an EAW pivot mount with lever. You swing the lever up, push the button, and then turn the scope 90 degrees, and out she comes! Apparently it is a slam-dunk for re-zeroing, too. Despite my lack of fondness for the calibre, I am super stoked to shoot this thing. Take a look at one of the pics, and you will see the German proof marks, indicating that it was proofed in Munich. Really cool!




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double gun said:
I just checked my "ruger#1" book and it says the heym #1's were stocked and barreled by heym. The pictures of the stocks shown are obliviously not ruger stocks, nor is the barrel or sights.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree completely with this. The checkering pattern is Ruger, the stock style is Ruger, the foresight base is Ruger, and the quarter rib is Ruger, but it's been altered for the German scope bases. You can still see the dovetail notches for the Ruger rings... why put them back on if you're going to build a new rib with a different sighting system? The rifle has been slightly customized and the stock given an oil finish, but there's nothing there apart from the scope mounts that's not from Ruger.

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