HI, My Name Is Douglas and I'm an ADDICT...........

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Not sure how it happened, bought my first chronograph at age 19. It was an Oehler Model 10 with silver ink embossed paper screens, it was a thing of mystery and beauty and there is where it began. My addiction to velocity...........I just knew I could get more out of any given cartridge than some old fuddy-duddy who wrote loading manuals for a living. That's how addictions start, you know, one little deviation from the norm, 50 extra fps and bang, your hooked!!!!! Prior to this acquisition I just happily went on my way loading from the books and quoting the velocity listed there for that powder, bullet and cartridge.........and I went out nearly every day and shot stuff. Not chronograph screens but stuff, like prairie jackrabbits and gophers and badgers and coyotes, you know, stuff that made one a better shot.....stuff that moved. I loaded for the sake of having ammo to go shoot stuff, but not anymore, I was now loading ammo to see how fast I could make it go through the chronograph screens. All of a sudden shooting stuff was secondary to how fast can I get that bullet tripping through them screens, and how small a group can I get them to land in.
The paper screens I got with the Mod 10 (from Guntech) didn't last very long, and my inquiry with Oehler for more was met with "we may make another run of screens but do not know when at this point". AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGG......get me addicted then cut me off like this............I survived another couple of years shooting groups and STUFF. I then moved to Whitehorse, away from the "stuff" rich environment of the prairies east of Calgary. A more forested landscape with far less medium to long range "stuff" shooting opportunities. In order to keep up my shooting regime I would be spending more time at the range and accordingly joined the Whitehorse Rifle and Pistol Club, immediately.
With less stuff to shoot at and an on going addiction to shooting accompanied by my new addition to velocity, I spent nearly every evening at the range, trying this powder in that cartridge or that powder in this cartridge looking for the "Holy Grail" for each and every cartridge I owned. Somewhere in this blurr of working almost 7 days a week and shooting almost every evening I didn't work, and all day if I got a day off, my wife moved back to Calgary without me. They say addictions are hardest on the family, I guess it must be true.
THEN.......the Chrony arrived on the scene in an affordable and compact package, I ordered one immediately and my second addiction was back in full swing. Loading, chasing another 20 fps, change powder, change primers looking for that last highest velocity/accuracy node before the brass gave up the ghost and shed it's primer. This has been my life for the last 35 years. Throw in some gunsmith mentoring from a couple great guys and a bunch of wildcatting and cartridge design, building my own semi custom rifles on a lot of my wildcats and some shooting stuff.
Africa is a great place to go and shoot "stuff" as they have "stuff" from gopher size to elephant size and gobs of it.........Africa became my new "stuff" shooting ground. But still I spent days and nights chasing 1/2" groups and that extra 20, 30, 50 fps I knew was hiding in those cartridges. I was never happy, a new powder would hit the shooting scene and I was all over it, loading it in any appropriate cartridge I owned. I spent thousands and thousands of dollars developing loads, buying barrels, trying new wildcats, buying guns, until I had well over a hundred rifles and pistols.......only ever had a couple or three shotguns. Oh ya, I almost forgot, the reading, everything ever written on hunting Africa and about guns, cartridges, loading, you name it, I have likely read it at least once. Somewhere along the way number two wife got fed up and left too. They say addictions are hardest on the family, I guess it must be true.
I did so much with guns, powder, bullets, brass and barrels over the years that it is far too much to put it all in here, but suffice it to say that it has been at least one lifetime full and possibly working hard on a second. It has been a long and arduous journey with some successes and many, many disappointments and a few abject failures. I think I have enjoyed some of it, but then when you are addicted it is not about enjoyment, it becomes a curse. It all came into focus the last couple of weeks, I had a problem with ravens so I went down to my gun vault ...there is another downside to owning 180+ guns, is that you must have an entire room in your house to house them securely, and the room to set up your 3 or 4 presses and 120 or so sets of dies, but I digress......ravens, gun vault..oh ya, so I go down to grab a rifle to dispatch a couple and hopefully encourage the remainder to reside in a different county. I do NOT have a single rifle of appropriate caliber sighted in or a tried and true ultimate velocity load ready.........I shake my head at the sorry state of my addiction as I listen to the ravens mock me.
Then I see a coyote in my pasture mousing, he's gonna be toast for sure, I grab my very favorite of all 243 and wander over to my machine shed, out of sight of the pasture, and get a good rest on a corner as I survey the open ground looking for said 'yote. AHA there you are you scruffy little chicken killer, and I planted the cross hairs on his chest as he sat looking at me 150 mtrs away. I squeeze the trigger, the rifle bucks and he runs away, SH!T........oh ya I had the scope off this one to try loads in a different 243 and never resighted it..........again I shake my head at the sorry state of my addiction.
I own 4 chronographs, 180+ firearms, well over a hundred sets of dies a not so small fortune in scopes and other related gear, and I can't hit a coyote at 150 mtrs. Something has gone seriously awry here, maybe it's time I faced the addiction, get it under control and remember what one has rifles and pistols for, to dispatch unwanted vermin and successfully hunt big game...........HHHHMMMMMM, seem to have lost sight of that. I think back to the time before I owned my first chronograph and all the fun I had shooting stuff. I would take a mid book load, load it up, go sight in my rifle.....they always seemed to shoot pretty good, and go shooting stuff. Come back, load up the same load and go out the next evening and shoot more stuff. This, I remembered, is how I got to be the shot I am today, evening after evening, thousands upon thousands of rounds shooting stuff. Not sitting at a bench punching tiny holes in paper at the highest extreme velocity the cartridges were capable of.
Which brings me to the point of this lengthy dissertation. I came to the sad realization, upon missing the coyote, that my rifles were all in a state of flux. None are truly sighted in, none really have any amount of ammo loaded for them, and again I have almost 1000 test loads for nearly 50 different rifles and/or cartridges. I realize that I need to get at least a small core of rifles sighted in and a reasonable amount of ammo loaded for each (minimum 200). With this in mind I loaded up 6 rifles in my Ranger and went up to my range in my pasture yesterday. I did NOT take a chronograph !!!!!! I had 2 racks of test loads for my 204 (ultimate raven killer) and my old BSA 6.5X55, loads for my 243, 350 RM, 17 HMR and my 700 MS 7-08. I had good loads for the 243, 7-08 and 350 RM but just changed the scope on the 350 and hadn't ever really sighted in the others. I had a great afternoon with some great results, got both the 204 and 6.5 shooting well under an inch @ 100 mtrs and I don't know, nor do I care what the velocity is.........raven ain't gonna care if it's doing 3800 or 4100 when it impacts him center body!! Likewise for the 6.5, and it is shooting bulk Norma bullets I bought more than 20 years ago and of which I have several thousand. My 17 isn't shooting as well as I would like but at least it is sighted in now and I can hit gopher sized dirt clods out to 150 mtrs. The 350 is a joy as always and the new 1.5-5 VariX III is crystal clear and I can get enough adjustment to work with my tired old eyes. It also shot around an inch and is sighted absolutely perfect 2" high at 100 mtrs. The 7-08 shot very well and I got it hitting perfectly center 2 1/2" high and shooting just under an inch. I had a good load already worked up and 200 loaded rounds for it, just never bothered to finish sighting it in, consequences of my addiction !!!! Today I shall load more 204 and retest to be sure the load is in fact working and then I'll load the remainder of the bullets I have for it and start looking for more. I have more than 400 cases for it. I will do the same for the 6.5 and retest to be sure and then I shall load the several hundred cases I have for it. I will continue to do this with more rifles I own until I have at least 1/2 of them sighted in with loads made up and waiting.
I will not forsake the chronographs entirely but I have decided to cease looking for the absolute last fps and look for an accurate node anywhere near the upper end but not 4 grains over book anymore. I know many of you will be disappointed in me as you have come to expect this with my loads, and I will still be wildcatting and seeking good loads for them. But for my hunting rifles and general working firearms I have decided to adopt a more conservative load development regime. Don't get me wrong, I won't be loading 300 RUM to 06 velocities but I also won't be trying to get 3400 out of 200 grnrs any more either. As many of the experienced on here have noted in the past a critter don't care if the same bullet hits him in the same place at 2800, 3000 or 3200 fps he's still f**ked!
For you young guys who have taken the time to read this lengthy diatribe, take note..........This addiction is very real and can be as debilitating and as destructive to family as a heroine or cocaine addiction. DO NOT fall into this as I have, always keep in mind that the point of shooting is to hunt or target shoot or whatever you choose, but unless you can make a living at it, it is a hobby. It should be fun and not an obsession, you don't need to try every single new powder that comes along, if you have a rifle that's shooting well and is familiar to you with that load. The extra 50 fps you may get won't make a rat's ass difference in the field and chasing it will cost you hundreds of dollars and many hours, both of which could be better spent hunting or shooting a sport or discipline.........or with your family!!!!
 
"Hello Douglas" you hit the nail on the head with this one. I came to the same realization, though not as extreme, when I bought my wife a 7 08 for shooting stuff. It goes like this,"why can't I shoot stuff?" Because your rifle isn't zeroed properly. "Why?" Because I haven't found the right load yet. "Why can't you just load some ammo so I can shoot?" Because if I do that all that ammo will not match the drops when I do find a load. And so it goes! Went back to some old data, loaded up enough to shoot a lot of stuff and zeroed rifle. The first step is admitting you have a problem!
 
I've been on a bit of a mission getting most everything up and running, finalizing loads on "normal calibers" based on 5-800 yard results, doing drop charts, shooting off-hand and basically being as ready as I'll be. As near as I can tell I've tossed 12 empty 8# kegs this year and there's another few that are holding mostly fumes. I'd couldn't even begin to guess how many one pounders hit the garbage.

The stupid thing is, I'm not any better equipped than if I just picked half a dozen rifles and threw the rest away.
 
Thanks for explaining this. I can sure understand the desire for perfection - it's what a lot of us try for, heck I'd say anyone who enjoys guns as much as we do goes through a lot of money and time trying to find that sweet load for each gun we own.
Myself, I have been nothing more than a gear collector for the past 6 years or so. Still haven't had the time to get a range membership, work has changed over the past year, with a lot less income, somehow I wonder sometimes if all that gear I bought will ever get used.
Have wanted so badly to get into target shooting, perhaps it's time I realize I may have to wait for retirement, but it's so damn far away I don't want to wait that long. Life just seems to get nothing but more difficult the older I get, time becomes the enemy.
Want to get my boys into shooting and hunting - the outdoors, but I tell you - it's sure not like it was back in the 80's, friends and I would go in the bush behind his place almost every other weekend in the fall - some of the best memories I have.
Going to try my darndest to at least get some partridge hunting this fall, hope I can bring the oldest along to show him how fun nature can be.
 
Here i thought i was the only one who did this. My addiction is not with chrony's but with projects....this rifle is for coyotes....this for still hunting....this is for the quad...this is a takedown for the backpack.

Then i move on to something else.

Most recently it was to rid myself of to pretty to use for fear of scratching them pieces. The battle continues, just not at your level...luckily.
 
A frightening look into the future that the road I've started in may take me. I have half a dozen rifles that I reload for and not a single go to load among them. Perhaps it's time to concentrate on one and go from there. Good write up.
 
Fruck, I need to git me nudder reeb or two.
Holy Moly, themzs lawts oh letters yah dun pewt tuh-gether............:runaway:

As Awrnald wood say, "I'll be bahck.
 
A frightening look into the future that the road I've started in may take me. I have half a dozen rifles that I reload for and not a single go to load among them. Perhaps it's time to concentrate on one and go from there. Good write up.

Pretty well in the same boat but with about a dozen more rifles/pistols I'm loading for. Got two rifles I've got so called pet loads for and a third that appears to be right around the corner. I keep telling myself no more firearms until the ones I have are running like tops with their own "sweet" load but then there's a moment of weakness and yet an other hungry mouth to feed.

Douglas that was quite the write up and certainly helps to put things in perspective. Thank you very much for taking the time to share.
 
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That there is a starting chapter to a big long book.
Didja break yer favorite powder shuvvel?

Maybe yuzz need diffrunt coloured stickers?
You know, blue fer a gooder shewter.
Red fer scope wuzz robbed and pewt back, but nawt sited in.
Green fer feathers.
Brown fer gofers.
Yeller fer don't know wtfh.

Can't hit a yote`...........................thet-thar is plumb funny.
Maybe yu need to farm sum roadrunners.
 
I learned a valuable lesson with my 45/70. I had it loaded so hot I'd see sky after each hit. Results were devastating on the target. I kept trying to get more. Then a friend wanted to try a big bore. I know it was only a 45/70 but it recoiled in a class above. I loaded it down to sane levels. Higher then trap door but not top end marlin. Results on targets were still impressive and I found I could stay on target with recoil. Now I'm shooting hard cast at 1550 fps and loving it. It no longer has that drastic crack when fired but I'm not left wondering if the next shot will split the stock.
I may switch powders as the varget isn't sealing the brass long enough I don't think. The cases come out blackened. But it's like shooting a 410 but I can shoot thru 10" poplar trees and 45 gallon drums full of water.
 
I grew up under the complete opposite of too many guns, scopes, different loads and too much of sighting in. I grew up in a world where there was a hunter in every family and they shot big game for family survival 12 months of the year, with whatever rifle they happened to have.
Most had probably "checked the sights," some time in the past by the traditional method, which was commonly to make a blaze on a tree with their axe, get back about fifty yards and take a shot at it, using another tree to lean against. If the shot hit the blaze, or came quite close, the remark would be, "That's good enough." If the shot was a bit high, they would say they would just take a finer bead and if low, they would take a coarser bead. From then on they would go year after year, bringing home the vital meat, but without further sighting.
In our family the hunter was an older brother who used a Remington 30-06 to bring home vast numbers of elk and moose, to feed a large family, plus giving some to needy neighbors. The rifle had a Lyman Peep sight and I don't remember my brother ever adjusting it. That was the rifle I shot my first deer and moose with.
I had a cheapie old Savage 30-06 for a while, shot some game with it but didn't like it, so sold it and got the 30-06 Husqvarna at the end of 1949, which I still have. I also put a Lyman 48 aperture on it, sighted it in on a tree target and virtually never touched the sights again. I went through the remainder of the glory years of hunting with that rifle and it accounted for a fair amount of game. There were a few years when I shot more than one moose a year with it. Don't scream at me, I often hunted with one or the other of two game wardens and one year one of them was with me in the bush while I shot one moose, then he said, take the other one, too. Another time I shot a diseased moose and they gave me authority to shoot another. I also used to hunt with a fellow who always told me to hoot his, also, if I got the chance. He could never figure me out when I insisted that he not shoot mine!
During the end of my game hunting with that rifle and its peep sights, I ended my record of killing every moose I ever shot at. Last days of the season, big bull away across a meadow in a foot or so of snow. Held on top of his chest and the bull trotted off. Walked over and saw the bullet hole in the snow, under his chest. The bull was at least 150 yards further than I thought.
Fast forward to more rifles, scopes and lots of formal target shooting, different settings and many different hand loads.
Hey, I know exactly what you guys are talking about, but I can assure you, I liked the old way best.
 
The most basic of rifles will handle almost all hunting duties providing that it is sighted in, works everytime and a bullet chosen that resembles suitable. It's hard to get a bolt action shooting so bad with cheap factory loads that it won't make a 300 yard hunting rifle, and unless there is something wrong with it it isn't much harder to get it set up for 500. That also requires knowing where to point it.

Instead of leaving the practically no-brainer situation alone, people will obsess about some arbitrary accuracy standard that they dreamed up and neglect the basics like sighting in and suitable bullets. It's also common for people to dismiss "where to point it" as an insignificant detail, when in actual fact it's close to the only thing that matters. "How to point it "is right up there too, but you won't see many people burning their ammoearning that.

It's just a bad case of losing sight of the forest due to the trees.
 
Yep DL, the study of internal and external ballistics becomes more consuming than shooting for fun, enjoyment and hunting................all consuming......................... What forest?
 
Seek perfection, settle for excellence. I started reloading for the money savings and just recently have started trying to find those perfect loads. Then I settled for good enough when I came to the realization that I need to be a better shooter first.
Along the way I quickly learned which combinations don't work for me and have settled on just a few for each gun, mostly based on available powder and projectiles. Part of that process involved doing up 24 combinations of .308 for my BLR and even with only 4rds of each, I was able to eliminate 3/4 of them from further consideration. The rest? Maybe a little tweaking but the big motivator is the cost savings. More practice for less $ is good.
 
Douglas....over the last three years I have gone from over 130 firearms to under 15 total... rimfire, shotgun and centerfire... it is liberating... I was in exactly the same situation. I gave up on tracking velocity a few years ago when I shot my chronograph (an ugly tale)... I now have eight rifles, all scoped and sighted in and with a hundred or so of their preferred loads ready to go... and I can breath... and shoot, whenever I decide I want to, at a moments notice.

P.S - I thought your tale was going to end with #3 moving to Florida.... ;)
 
Okay now, I'm making headway in addressing this addiction of mine...........so far I have loads AND sighted in several rifles.

204 Ruger, I was playing with the powder which gave the fastest velocities but after exhaustive load development my rifle does not like Win 748. So I tried a different powder (RL 15)which lists in all the manuals and I think one shows it as "most accurate" for all that means........With 32 gn Vmax it will shoot consistently sub MOA, 4 consecutive groups all from .7 to .9. I was trying for .5 but then realized I'm shooting a light barreled SPSS and all 5 shot groups..........maybe my expectations were a tad high. Anyway I have settled on this load and I don't even know what the velocity is but it is good enough for the raven problem I have, and without ejector marks the brass should last my lifetime anyway. It's not a wussy load by any stretch but it's also not 70,000 psi for a change. It is sighted right on the center line and all shots all falling between 2-2.75 inches above center...........perfection.

6.5X55 BSA.........this is to be my shop rifle, it will reside in my shop so as not to be marooned up there with bears in the yard and no rifles, or coyotes in the pasture and closest rifle being 100 mtrs away. Again a good load consistently sub MOA and right on the mark at 2" high at 100 mtrs, no idea of the velocity but again not a wussy load but no ejector marks or stiff bolt lift and all with a bullet of which I have thousands and IMR 7828 of which I have 10 or 12 lbs. Interestingly I had a load working very well in this rifle, but when I went to put the cartridges in the magazine they were too long. Rather than tear the rifle apart and lengthen the magazine and bolt throw (all relatively easy on this rifle.....a couple hours labor) I just pushed the bullets in another 50 thou and tried it again. Guess what it still shoots the same load sub MOA and no rifle mods required..........another success story sighted in and ready to go.

Mentioned I already had a good 140 gn load for the 7-08, and finally did the last tweeking to a perfect 2-2/1/2" high at 100 Mtrs.

The 350 is all done, sighted in and loads all made up for it..........

Still working with my 25-06 which is the rifle/cartridge I want for my back door gun. It is showing some possibilities but I need to try 3 shot groups as 4 always seem to spread to a couple inches but the last 2 groups put the first 3 into about 1 1/4" clusters with 125 gn Matrix FB, again I went sans chronograph and just watched the signs I know so well......again no ejector marks or stiff bolt lift but nearing the max for sure. This needs more work..........just to be functional.

I finally got around to bedding my hornet which has hated me and has been giving me fits for the past 10 years.......of course with the action rocking on the recoil lug it didn't seem to want to shoot anything well........imagine that. Anyway she's bedded properly now and there will be further word on this little girl later.

470 NE..........check, scope mounted and sighted in with loads on hand.

375 H&H Rem 700.....check, sighted in with loads on hand.

7 RUM............check, loads on hand and sighted in.


It's a start and only leaves about another 60 to go. (Not including all my Winchester lever guns)
 
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Douglas; I certainly enjoyed your "diatribe", lol.

Parts of it were like me looking in a mirror. [particularly about 10 years ago.]

Still own plenty, but none that are not ready to go with ammo loaded and ready.

We gun "loonies" have a unique outlook on our firearms. Worse for some than others.

Thanks for a refreshing read and solemn reminder. Dave.
 
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