High End 10/22 discussion?
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lol....now that was funny...
Again, the serious answer is: Tony Kidd complete for 1800 @ TSE, or a complete Volquartsen special order, starting at $1500 or so and upward until you pass out from too little oxygen, add in a nice scope for 500-700 and you're at $2500ish.....it doesn't take long.
I was looking for opinions or reviews on wither or, but I guess it's simply come down to a typical CGN joke thread...no worries...range report once I make a decision.
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A Volquartsen Fusion 'take down' will set you back $1,800US... add the exchange rate and import/export fees... and you're easily into the $2,500CDN territory
If I'm not mistaken TSE has one of those in as well....$2400 cdn....I don't know if it is a take down, but other than that it's the same....damn nice rifle too! If it is a takedown maybe I'll have to have a closer look....lol
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If I had an endless supply of money and I could actually get these parts here in Canuckistan....... Here is my shopping list!!
Kidd 2-stage Trigger Kit $289.95 (USD)
htt p://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=21&zenid=7bcf6531843a91908298baf907d25a11
Kidd CNC Bolt $99.95 (USD)
htt p://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16&products_id=9
Kidd Super Grade Reciever $200.00 (USD)
htt p://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=52
Kidd Cocking Assy $35.95 (USD)
htt p://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=40
Tactical Solutions Barrel $180.00 (USD)
htt p://tacticalsol.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=17&idproduct=1056
All told for the parts listed abouve, $805.85 (USD) Plus $250 (ish) for a stock and $500 for a good piece of glass..... I see 2K coming up fast!
All you need from this point is a Stock, Scope, Mags and a good machinist that can "match" the bolt face and the barrel face.
Once you have all of the figgured out you have to Pillar and Bed the stock.
This is all assuming you can get these parts, I am sure if price is no object it can be imported (for a HUGE fee$$$), but for me I will just compile a list till I win the Lotto!
Good luck with your build, I wish I was doing it!
Cheers!
Kidd 2-stage Trigger Kit $289.95 (USD)
htt p://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=21&zenid=7bcf6531843a91908298baf907d25a11
Kidd CNC Bolt $99.95 (USD)
htt p://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16&products_id=9
Kidd Super Grade Reciever $200.00 (USD)
htt p://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=52
Kidd Cocking Assy $35.95 (USD)
htt p://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=40
Tactical Solutions Barrel $180.00 (USD)
htt p://tacticalsol.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=17&idproduct=1056
All told for the parts listed abouve, $805.85 (USD) Plus $250 (ish) for a stock and $500 for a good piece of glass..... I see 2K coming up fast!
All you need from this point is a Stock, Scope, Mags and a good machinist that can "match" the bolt face and the barrel face.
Once you have all of the figgured out you have to Pillar and Bed the stock.
This is all assuming you can get these parts, I am sure if price is no object it can be imported (for a HUGE fee$$$), but for me I will just compile a list till I win the Lotto!
Good luck with your build, I wish I was doing it!
Cheers!
I could never see any actual products on TSE's site.
That website is "under construction" since more than 6 years.
Because you say "complete", does it mean it has Kidd receiver???
I'm sorry, in my previous statements
I did not take the glass into account.
Glass is a whole different matter, as you can
spend 2k on a scope alone and still not being completely satisfied.
Other people go with Canadian Tire scopes for $100
and shoot MOA up to 50yds all day.
Having a high end 10/22 is an interesting experience.
Its awesome fun to spend next to nothing on a day of shooting. Chasing golf balls around at 100m all day long, or shooting the flys that land on your paper target. Not to mention that you will never get a bruised shoulder.
But after a while, despite how incredible it all is, it tends to get just a little bit boring. I mean you always know exactly where the bulet will go. EXACTLY. It just takes all the challenge out of it.
Hunting gophers with one is truely wonderful. As you the marksman have nothing to worry about but your range and wind estimation. I dont think I could ever get bored of perfection in that arena.
But if you are on the range, I think you will wish you had spent all that money on a good .22, and something else.
I almost bought a Cooper before too, a single shot .223. But I couldnt bring myself to buy such a pretty gun knowing I would probably scratch it up.
You know, you could build up a pretty decent 10/22 AND get a cooper for $2500!
Its awesome fun to spend next to nothing on a day of shooting. Chasing golf balls around at 100m all day long, or shooting the flys that land on your paper target. Not to mention that you will never get a bruised shoulder.
But after a while, despite how incredible it all is, it tends to get just a little bit boring. I mean you always know exactly where the bulet will go. EXACTLY. It just takes all the challenge out of it.
Hunting gophers with one is truely wonderful. As you the marksman have nothing to worry about but your range and wind estimation. I dont think I could ever get bored of perfection in that arena.
But if you are on the range, I think you will wish you had spent all that money on a good .22, and something else.
I almost bought a Cooper before too, a single shot .223. But I couldnt bring myself to buy such a pretty gun knowing I would probably scratch it up.
You know, you could build up a pretty decent 10/22 AND get a cooper for $2500!
Ive built 3 of them. I love every one...
It can get boring, but its all about trigger time and practise for me. If it gets boring, stretch the legs and go to 200 or 300.... Thats what I find myself doing a lot of now. After hitting golfballs at 100, its a strange feeling to miss a gong at 200 or 300 yards. Makes it fun though...
It can get boring, but its all about trigger time and practise for me. If it gets boring, stretch the legs and go to 200 or 300.... Thats what I find myself doing a lot of now. After hitting golfballs at 100, its a strange feeling to miss a gong at 200 or 300 yards. Makes it fun though...
I have customized a few 10/22 in my day and if you want a great setup here is the way to go:
-Kidd Trigger Assembly - Top shelf, the 2 stage trigger is great and is in my opinion way better then the VQ one.
-Lilja Barrel - Top of the line Barrel. I had a VQ barrel that was fluted and with a compensator and all that flare is for not. The compensator doesn't do a thing, but looks cool. It gets filled with fouling and debris and because of this made me want to shoot it less. The Lilja was a nice Bull stainless steel with no flutes and looks very classy.
Basically with the 2 of these they will run you approx $700-$800 alone. You still need to get a good recoil buffer, a nice aftermarket recoil rod and handle, a good stock and scope.
I really enjoyed my 10/22's but the thing that really got me was........I pull up to the range with a full custom rife, shoot a few then......click....jam. All the money you spend on it still doesn't take away the fact that it is a semi-auto and it will jam. I sold both and went with 2 nice bolt Anschutz and couldn't be happier.
Here are a few I did:
-Kidd Trigger Assembly - Top shelf, the 2 stage trigger is great and is in my opinion way better then the VQ one.
-Lilja Barrel - Top of the line Barrel. I had a VQ barrel that was fluted and with a compensator and all that flare is for not. The compensator doesn't do a thing, but looks cool. It gets filled with fouling and debris and because of this made me want to shoot it less. The Lilja was a nice Bull stainless steel with no flutes and looks very classy.
Basically with the 2 of these they will run you approx $700-$800 alone. You still need to get a good recoil buffer, a nice aftermarket recoil rod and handle, a good stock and scope.
I really enjoyed my 10/22's but the thing that really got me was........I pull up to the range with a full custom rife, shoot a few then......click....jam. All the money you spend on it still doesn't take away the fact that it is a semi-auto and it will jam. I sold both and went with 2 nice bolt Anschutz and couldn't be happier.
Here are a few I did:
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Hmm...I've read this post with some interest. I've done two 10/22 builds and both have been fun. I'm currently playing with a restricted Charger that I'm trying to work some functioning problems out with...time is an issue though...and therein lies the rub.
At risk of being burned at the stake, I have found that 10/22's are just not reliable out of the box. You usually have to tinker with them to make em run right. I'm not complaining - I knew what I was getting into. But this takes a bit of time...which is limited for me at the moment.
I also have a hard time believing that money spent accurizing a 10/22 is money well spent. It may be fun to spend the money and build your 10/22 but it won't make it into an Anschutz or any other fancy bolt action rimfire.
As a matter of fact I have a hard time believing any 10/22 could out shoot my BRNO #4 (given the same quality glass were used on both rifles) at any distance. By the way you can pick up good condition #4's for usually $400 and under these days....
At risk of being burned at the stake, I have found that 10/22's are just not reliable out of the box. You usually have to tinker with them to make em run right. I'm not complaining - I knew what I was getting into. But this takes a bit of time...which is limited for me at the moment.
I also have a hard time believing that money spent accurizing a 10/22 is money well spent. It may be fun to spend the money and build your 10/22 but it won't make it into an Anschutz or any other fancy bolt action rimfire.
As a matter of fact I have a hard time believing any 10/22 could out shoot my BRNO #4 (given the same quality glass were used on both rifles) at any distance.
By the way you can pick up good condition #4's for usually $400 and under these days....
Bulls eye,
Wow very nice. Where'd you get those stocks from? They are beautiful. I'd consider putting one together like that. Hmmm I have a GM fluted 20" barrel sitting here and I'm actually happy with my stock target model right now. Might have to slowly get the parts together for a second "classic" target build.
Wow very nice. Where'd you get those stocks from? They are beautiful. I'd consider putting one together like that. Hmmm I have a GM fluted 20" barrel sitting here and I'm actually happy with my stock target model right now. Might have to slowly get the parts together for a second "classic" target build.
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I'm not sure if you'd be interested, but there is a place in the US manufacturing a stock/receiver assembly that resembles an AR, their name is Zimmerman Arms. As far as I know, it is the first of its kind to have the stock and receiver as one assembly eliminating many of the bedding issues that can happen with 10/22's. As far as I have heard, the Kidd trigger is one of the best, but I have heard many good things about the RT groups as well. I have shot the VQ groups, and find them no better than a well tuned factory group. Just my 02.
I'm not sure if you'd be interested, but there is a place in the US manufacturing a stock/receiver assembly that resembles an AR, their name is Zimmerman Arms. As far as I know, it is the first of its kind to have the stock and receiver as one assembly eliminating many of the bedding issues that can happen with 10/22's. As far as I have heard, the Kidd trigger is one of the best, but I have heard many good things about the RT groups as well. I have shot the VQ groups, and find them no better than a well tuned factory group. Just my 02.
The first one was made by Canyon Creek Custom and the other was done by Claude Gatewood who was a sponsor on RFC.
They are actually quite reasonable. The one you like was, I believe, around $550 USD.
