High Volume Pistol re-loading
- Thread starter Kurch
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http://www.ammoload.com/
check that outi could watch that all day if i had one in my basement lol
how long do you figure it would pay itself off? shooting 1000-2000 rounds/week.. 2 years? could be worth while ! lol
Just need to get yourself the site inspection a, factory license and all the magazine permits (sorta like the ones the CSSA is helping NRCAN suggest for home loaders now)... and a way you go...
Oh and your basement wouldn't pass the site inspection..
FYI since you say you new at reloading before you go reloading 1000 rounds an hour incorrectly or dangerously and then wonder why they don’t feed or work in all your friends guns... you might want to start out with a basic kit.
I hope your friends trust you with their lives because I know shooters that won’t use my hand loads and I won’t use the ones they made. Even though we both have 50,000 rounds a year under our belts.
Yes before you dump 5 thousand dollars or more on some automated kit... you should get a single stage press and learn about the basics...
If you’re going to be loading for multiple guns you’re going to want to have at least a 5 stage press or 8 like the dillion 1050, since you will want to factory crimp and then post size your bullet to ensure they work properly in all your guns you will be using.
You biggest concerns should be powder storage, and sourcing primers and brass... without these components your fast reloading press will be useless. It’s often hard to get your hands on 10000 primers at a time. Don’t forget safe storage of all of these components and then your complete ammunition.
If you’re planning on selling this stuff that’s out of the question, you will never get approved for sale mfg out of someone’s basement.
I hope your friends trust you with their lives because I know shooters that won’t use my hand loads and I won’t use the ones they made. Even though we both have 50,000 rounds a year under our belts.
Yes before you dump 5 thousand dollars or more on some automated kit... you should get a single stage press and learn about the basics...
If you’re going to be loading for multiple guns you’re going to want to have at least a 5 stage press or 8 like the dillion 1050, since you will want to factory crimp and then post size your bullet to ensure they work properly in all your guns you will be using.
You biggest concerns should be powder storage, and sourcing primers and brass... without these components your fast reloading press will be useless. It’s often hard to get your hands on 10000 primers at a time. Don’t forget safe storage of all of these components and then your complete ammunition.
If you’re planning on selling this stuff that’s out of the question, you will never get approved for sale mfg out of someone’s basement.
I hope you are kidding! We need regulations for reloading for personal use like we need a hole in the head. If CSSA isn't holding to this opinion then they are doing us all a diservice.
Take Care
Bob
As soon as you load for someone else you need the permits. And as mentioned, a commercial loading operation needs a separate building.
As for CSSA, there are already regulations in place for reloading, mainly to do with powder and primer storage and quantities.
Given the absence any indication of enforcement or de facto compliance I suggest that as they relate to most of us reloaders the laws are either ignored or not needed. Any assistance CSSA provides the government in drafting new or more regulations for personal reloading is an insult to reloaders IMHO. What we need is less, not more government regulations.
Take Care
Bob
Your getting two things confused... if you reload for your own personal uses there are no permits needed... if you reload and sell to others then there is 10 miles of red tape to cross.
CFO is the enforcement along with Natural Resources Canada. Both of them outline what is allowed with and without permits.
Alot of regulations vary from province to province.
Ill try and find the links for you if you would like to read up.
http://www.nrcan-rncan.gc.ca/mms-smm/expl-expl/lic-lic-eng.htm
This licence is required for the storage of propellant powder, primers and small arms ammunition if:
- the quantity of powder stored for personal use exceeds 75 kilograms;
- the quantity of powder stored for sale exceeds 12 kilograms net explosives weight or 10 000 primers;
- the storage of ammunition exceeds 225 kilograms net explosives quantity.
I was referring to the ammoload.. As soon as you get into an automated machine you are in commercial reloading territory.. You need permits...
As for reloading The CSSA and NFA are having a war of words over the proposals they made the NRCAN.. In my opinion the CSSA's proposal gave too much away.. They are debating that.. But you can look for youselves
If any organization give away anything to the government they will take it and add to it, all under the guize of consulting with stake holders. What we need is less not more regulations particularly when it involves activities that don't concern the government, IMHO but alas I live in Canada where a large segment of the population loves to be regulated.
Take Care
Bob
Take Care
Bob
Best to read the thread. But in summary, it is not what CSSA "gave away" it is what NRCAN was going to TAKE from us whether we liked it or not.
NRCAN would like nothing better than to regulate all reloaders. In the name of public safety of course.......
