HiPower to be Replaced by Sig 320
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Agreed. We work so closely with the US. Using anything else would have been a tad foolish. Spare parts availability, short supply chain and soldiers on exchange training just to mention a few advantages.
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Glock 17/19 is a well proven sidearm with nearly a dozen NATO users to include the UK, France, Germany, Norway, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, and soon to be Finland & Sweden. P320 family is now a well proven sidearm with the US & Denmark. Both would be easy to field and support from a commonality perspective.
My personal preference would have been the Glock because that’s what I own and am comfortable with. That said, P320 is a great choice. The BHP in CAF service needs replacement, full stop. Glad it’s finally happening.
At least now I can have a reliable paperweight stuffed in my vest.
My personal preference would have been the Glock because that’s what I own and am comfortable with. That said, P320 is a great choice. The BHP in CAF service needs replacement, full stop. Glad it’s finally happening.
At least now I can have a reliable paperweight stuffed in my vest.
The us army got 75 years out of the 1911 pistol, we got 80 out of our hi powers which are arguably a better service pistol. Glad to see something modern come to the armed forces. Probably the best choice considering our neighbors to the south and the modularity.
I would have preferred to see Glock adopted, but most modern handguns are well designed and reliable. I am just happy to see us get an antiquated unreliable pistol replaced with a good modern reliable one. With now more than 36 years in the service I'm afraid I don't have many left to use the new pistol, but I hope to enjoy it for a short time before I time expire. I run a range for a couple days at the end of the month. Cant wait as the RSO to tell everyone on the range that the end of the BHP is official and that the future is bright.
Cheers
Moe
Cheers
Moe
I wonder whether accuracy had anything to do with the decision? I have an FN High Power that I really like, but I can't hit the broad side of a barn. Rented a Glock at one of our local indoor ranges and had the same experience. I have two Sigs that are easy to shoot and very accurate. Also a Beretta M9 that is somewhere in between for accuracy in my hands.
The sig p320 platform is easier to shoot and therefore, better choice for training new shooters. The modular design is also a plus.
However, take everything else aside, such as ergonomics, comfort, grip angle, molecularity, bore height, looks, colour...etc., whatever that floats your boat whether you're Sig fan or Glock fan or some pistol brand fan...
The P320 by design, is LESS safe than the Glock by design. There are already plenty of in-depth comparison and analysis online on the internal safety mechanisms, or if anyone is mechanical inclined, just disassemble and see how each part works for yourself. It's not rocket science.
Now, the possibility that an unintentional discharge happens in real life due to this flaw in design, is likely to be very very minor. But the point is, by design, it might happen.
Both platforms are more than enough for range and competitions. In my opinion, the P320 is actually ahead of Glock in this aspect as there are so many variations of grips and other type of customization directly from factory.
For a range gun, either one would suffice. But if I ever have to pick one that I will count my life on, the 320 would be on the bottom of my list.
However, take everything else aside, such as ergonomics, comfort, grip angle, molecularity, bore height, looks, colour...etc., whatever that floats your boat whether you're Sig fan or Glock fan or some pistol brand fan...
The P320 by design, is LESS safe than the Glock by design. There are already plenty of in-depth comparison and analysis online on the internal safety mechanisms, or if anyone is mechanical inclined, just disassemble and see how each part works for yourself. It's not rocket science.
Now, the possibility that an unintentional discharge happens in real life due to this flaw in design, is likely to be very very minor. But the point is, by design, it might happen.
Both platforms are more than enough for range and competitions. In my opinion, the P320 is actually ahead of Glock in this aspect as there are so many variations of grips and other type of customization directly from factory.
For a range gun, either one would suffice. But if I ever have to pick one that I will count my life on, the 320 would be on the bottom of my list.
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Yeah, because that slide mounted safety/decocker is brilliant....
This will undoubtedly be the M17 version of the P320 with the manual safety and loaded chamber indicator, and not the regular P320. You can bet the comms/advertising folks from Sig negotiated with the CAF to announce it as the "P320" so as to get more attention to the P320 platform writ large. I personally would have had zero issues carrying the manual safety version of the P320 with a round up the spout during my time in, just like I do with this one now:
I've got Glock, Beretta and Sig pistols. I like them all for different reasons, but I think the Sig is the better pick over all for soldiering. You gotta remember, not everyone using these pistols is some IPSC or Black Badge wizard. The bulk of these pistols get TI'ed to people that never grew up even seeing a gun, let alone shooting a handgun. It needs to be simple, light, easy to aim and quick to get decently proficient with (using the least amount of time spent learning).
