History Channel Documentry.. Norm Christie in Korea

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There has been a excellent documentry of Canadian veterans in the Korean war.on the history channel...hosted by historian Norm Christie....some very good photo's and action shots of the No.4 rifle, Bren Gun and the Vickers machine gun..
Norm Christie also produced and hosted the series of Canada's role in WW1 "For King and Empire"..and the WW2 series "For King and Country"
 
I saw a bit of that. The part I saw was about 700 PPCLI defending a road to Seoul against about 10,000 North Koreans. I had no idea this battle happened and was quite pissed off that we never learned of it in highschool.
 
Tudenom said:
I saw a bit of that. The part I saw was about 700 PPCLI defending a road to Seoul against about 10,000 North Koreans. I had no idea this battle happened and was quite pissed off that we never learned of it in highschool.

You don't learn things like that in High School history because our left wing teacher's and liberals don't want the younger generation to know that Canadian troops used their weapons to kill communists...they want Canadians to think that Canadian troops have a Blue Beret and a armband with UN..and a pair of binoculars and hand out bandages.
 
Alot of good infromation about Canada's role in Korea on the internet (isn't it great ;) ) including:

http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-71-112/conflict_war/korea/

http://www.kvacanada.com/canadians_in_the_korean_war.htm

Canada sent 26,791 to Korea and was the 4th Largest army defending South Korea. Only South Korea itself, the US and Britian had larger amounts of troops. There were 516 Canadians that died and 1,558 casualties.

Canadians faught in many battles, The Battle of Kapyong shows what Canadian Soliders are made of when put to the test. Its been proven time and time agian in WW1, WW2, Korea, and even now in Afganistan we have stand up troops! :dancingbanana:

The initial Chinese attack at Kapyong engaged the 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment until the Australians retreated from their positions on Hill 504. The Chinese then struck at the Canadian front. Wave after wave of massed Chinese troops kept up the attack throughout the night of 23 April. The Chinese had managed to infiltrate the brigade position by the morning of the 23rd. This resulted in Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry being completely surrounded. It had to be resupplied by air drops during this desperate time. By the evening of April 23 the Commonwealth 27th and 29th Brigades were facing the Chinese 118th Division. Throughout April 24 the battle was unrelenting. It devolved, on both fronts, into hand-to-hand combat with bayonet charges. This was some of the bloodiest and most ferocious hand-to-hand fighting of the Korean War. The Australians were ordered to make an orderly fall back to new defensive positions late in the day of April 24. The Canadians defended their position until eventually the Chinese assault collapsed. By the afternoon of 25 April the road through to the Canadians had been cleared of Chinese at which time the 2nd Battalion, PPCLI was relieved by units of the United States Army. The actions by the Australian and Canadian forces prevented a massive breakthrough that would certainly have resulted in the fall of Seoul.

A Standard Chinese Division of the time like the 118th that faught the Canadian Troops was 9000 men (3 Regiments of 3000 men each). A Canadian Battalion is 601 men. :eek:

Dimitri
 
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The initial Chinese attack at Kapyong engaged the 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment until the Australians retreated from their positions on Hill 504. The Chinese then struck at the Canadian front. Wave after wave of massed Chinese troops kept up the attack throughout the night of 23 April. The Chinese had managed to infiltrate the brigade position by the morning of the 23rd. This resulted in Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry being completely surrounded. It had to be resupplied by air drops during this desperate time. By the evening of April 23 the Commonwealth 27th and 29th Brigades were facing the Chinese 118th Division. Throughout April 24 the battle was unrelenting. It devolved, on both fronts, into hand-to-hand combat with bayonet charges. This was some of the bloodiest and most ferocious hand-to-hand fighting of the Korean War. The Australians were ordered to make an orderly fall back to new defensive positions late in the day of April 24. The Canadians defended their position until eventually the Chinese assault collapsed. By the afternoon of 25 April the road through to the Canadians had been cleared of Chinese at which time the 2nd Battalion, PPCLI was relieved by units of the United States Army. The actions by the Australian and Canadian forces prevented a massive breakthrough that would certainly have resulted in the fall of Seoul.

What's not mentioned here is the most amazing part of the battle: the battle was so intense and so close that to keep from being overrun by the Chinese, 2PPCLI had no other choice but to call artillery down on their own position - this ended up saving the day. 2 PPCLI was awarded the U.S. Presidential Unit Citation as a result, and the members of the battalion still wear it's blue rectangle on their uniforms to this day.
 
x westie said:
You don't learn things like that in High School history because our left wing teacher's and liberals don't want the younger generation to know that Canadian troops used their weapons to kill communists...they want Canadians to think that Canadian troops have a Blue Beret and a armband with UN..and a pair of binoculars and hand out bandages.
Front page of the Ottawa Citizen today (Sunday) had a huge closeup pic of an older vet (looked to be late 50s or so), saluting, wearing a... BLUE UN BERET complete with UN CAP BADGE!
I didn't know whether to be outraged or be saddened that journalists have come to this, that they equate UN work with WWII or Korea vets.
Sorry, it ain't the same.
Course I could write a letter to the editor pointing this out, but I would probably be declared a bigot or some such BS.
The MAJORITY of vets at the Rememberance day event in Ottawa did NOT have blue berets. Good for them.
Yet the Ottawa Citizen chose a pic of a vet wearing a blue UN beret. :mad:
 
There is an excellent section at the new war museum in Ottawa showing some of the battles, and such from Korea.

I saw the series, there were about 3 in a row the other night. Marathon.

Remembrance Day Weekend is a *good* weekend to watch History Channel. Longest Day was on last night too...

NS
 
My dad served in Korea. I happened to catch the first episode by accident and called him right away so he could watch it. He dropped by today and advised that it was the best documentary about Korea he had seen to date.
Pretty high praise from someone who was there.
 
jaycee said:
What's not mentioned here is the most amazing part of the battle: the battle was so intense and so close that to keep from being overrun by the Chinese, 2PPCLI had no other choice but to call artillery down on their own position - this ended up saving the day. 2 PPCLI was awarded the U.S. Presidential Unit Citation as a result, and the members of the battalion still wear it's blue rectangle on their uniforms to this day.

Wikipedia (where I copied that little qoute actually did say it I just didnt copy it. In the Face of battle section:

Captain Mills, in command of D Company, 2nd Bn, PPCLI, was forced to call down artillery fire on his own positions on Hill 677 several times during that night to avoid being overrun.

And:

The 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry and 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment were both awarded the United States Distinguished Unit Citation for their actions during the Battle of Kapyong.

Dimitri
 
I too saw the tow hour long shows. Very good!. I am a Korean Vet ,1951yoJan 19 1952 when I was wounded and evacuated to Japan . Brought back a lot of memories. I was driver for a couple weeks to Kaesong and the Panmunjong. Duker
 
I like seeing the trenches where the fighting took place, would have been one hell of a moment to sit there and think about the desperate fighting that took place, the men on both sides that died, all for a hill with no name. I like the momument that the Koreans built for the PPCLI. At least someone remembers.
 
My father-inlaw was a member of the 2PPCLI and took part in the Battle Of Kapyong.

It is simply beyond belief that the Canadian vets that held the line on those hills outnumbered and surrounded were never properly recognized. Those fellow faced odds ten times greater than at the Alamo and saving Seoul.

Countless Americans owe their lives to the Canadians holding their ground.
When my father-inlaw passed away this October in Ontario the local American Legion Korean Vets held a memorial service in his honour.
 
I like the momument that the Koreans built for the PPCLI. At least someone remembers.

The dedication of the monument in Ottawa was aw-inspiring to say the least.
In 2005 we visited South Korea and saw the Canadian memorial facing Ottawa. The South Koreans are so very appreciative of the allied effort during the war and hold their Korean War vets and our vets in the highest regard. If visiting war memorials in South Korea you better be in respectful attire otherwise they will not allow you in.
 
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