HK 416 wow!!
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Gunnerlove
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Can the 416 eat the A1 ammo yet? Just asking.
mebiuspower
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People have more luck with Norc than NEA... true story.
TheGamerXxX
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Tact Imports doesn't anymore... Might have one or two left, but I doubt it.
Not sure who's left for distributors for HK in Canada.
Not sure who's left for distributors for HK in Canada.
Bullseye London has 6 of them in stock for $3700+tax if you're set on the HK. I would definitely think hard about dropping that kind of dough on an AR though. There are a lot of options for less than half of that that will perform well.
http://www.bullseyelondon.com/heckl...ton-14-5-barrel-5-round-black-restricted.html
http://www.bullseyelondon.com/heckl...ton-14-5-barrel-5-round-black-restricted.html
I can't believe I would ever think this but I would trade my KAC SR-15 for one of these. They are both similarly priced but I would love to try the piston system and I love HK. I feel like I'm cheating on my KAC. Better stop before she catches me.
Agreed, but MRs are not even close to HK416/417. I read a review by one of the gun ranges in US that does rent them to public and they said that the reliability of an MR556 is not even close to HK416. They purchased one trying to replace the HK416 (cost savings) and it did not last long. To me it looks like MR is a production line reject that did not make military specifications and is being sold to civilians (HK has really bad reputation when it comes to civilian market too). I am big fun of HK (own few and love them) but I buy only military grade (same production run staff). For some reason I do not trust anything that comes with "civilian" label from HK. So unless I can find one of the HK416 (around 8-10K - seen couple in the past 5 years) I do not think I would spend the money the HK is asking for on a reject, but that could be just me.
Agreed, but MRs are not even close to HK416/417. I read a review by one of the gun ranges in US that does rent them to public and they said that the reliability of an MR556 is not even close to HK416. They purchased one trying to replace the HK416 (cost savings) and it did not last long. To me it looks like MR is a production line reject that did not make military specifications and is being sold to civilians (HK has really bad reputation when it comes to civilian market too). I am big fun of HK (own few and love them) but I buy only military grade (same production run staff). For some reason I do not trust anything that comes with "civilian" label from HK. So unless I can find one of the HK416 (around 8-10K - seen couple in the past 5 years) I do not think I would spend the money the HK is asking for on a reject, but that could be just me.
That is 1 rifle according to one range, and you make a conclusion on that??? Think harder.
The HK MR223 line is not missing any of the quality compared to most HK416 variants out there, they are right on par and in fact some of the MR variations surpass some of the 416 variants in different areas. It operates the same and virtually identical with most parts being able to interchange.
I would not hesitate to buy any version from the HK MR223,A1,A3 line if I were you. It doesn't really matter Chrome lined or not.
One bad barrel for a range that shoots like 25 meters distance with little to know detailed feedback on ammo used or if the barrel was just one bad batch or whatever.
Agreed, but MRs are not even close to HK416/417. I read a review by one of the gun ranges in US that does rent them to public and they said that the reliability of an MR556 is not even close to HK416. They purchased one trying to replace the HK416 (cost savings) and it did not last long. To me it looks like MR is a production line reject that did not make military specifications and is being sold to civilians (HK has really bad reputation when it comes to civilian market too). I am big fun of HK (own few and love them) but I buy only military grade (same production run staff). For some reason I do not trust anything that comes with "civilian" label from HK. So unless I can find one of the HK416 (around 8-10K - seen couple in the past 5 years) I do not think I would spend the money the HK is asking for on a reject, but that could be just me.
If you don't like the "brand" or can't afford one, that's fine , just say that. The range in question, Battlefield Vegas, has had alot of questions raised about the accounting of the firearms in use there, and the owners comments etc. Barrels for both rifles are the same along with the components except for FA, the MR stands for "match rifle" so it may have an edge on the "older" 416? but that's just a guess. The new MR line have chrome lined barrels and that was the only difference to the best of my knowledge from the previous 416 line?
it was larry vickers (former delta) who was instrumental in bringing in hk416 in the hands of the operators.From then on hk416 grew its mythical reputation
The MR series are better rifles than the military 416 line. The barrels (on the originals) were not chrome-lined for a purpose, which was greater accuracy. The barrels are also "press-fitted" into the upper receiver's on the MR's, they are not on the 416 line. The rest of the components are exactly the same, minus the full-auto trigger parts.
The range in Vegas that ran and abused it complained about the barrel wearing out too fast. They were not concerned about accuracy in any way. Now the new MR's will have chrome-lined barrels, I suspect they will give up a bit of accuracy over the old ones.
AND yes I've shot thousands of rounds out of both models, including full-auto.
Rich
The range in Vegas that ran and abused it complained about the barrel wearing out too fast. They were not concerned about accuracy in any way. Now the new MR's will have chrome-lined barrels, I suspect they will give up a bit of accuracy over the old ones.
AND yes I've shot thousands of rounds out of both models, including full-auto.
Rich
Definitely look into KAC products. They make excellent quality firearms and spend a lot of money into R&D, to continue to improve on their version of the ar15. The SR15's have many improvements over the standard mil-spec ar15, and you can really tell the difference when you shoot a SR15 and a "regular ar15" side by side.
I own an SR15E3 Mod 1 Carbine (full rifle), as well as a BCM SFW carbine upper (their take on the Colt Canada C8 SFW rifle). Compared to the BCM, the KAC is much better balanced, shoots a lot softer, points better, is lighter, etc. You can find videos of torture tests online of the KAC SR15, one group took the SR15 E3 Mod 1 to over 20,000+ rounds without cleaning and it was still functioning fine.
I suggest going to a range that has one for you to try (if you can find one, perhaps not the easiest thing to do). I guarantee you will like it! Everyone that shoots my KAC absolutely loves it, feels like a completely different (and better!) animal than the typical ar15.
I own an SR15E3 Mod 1 Carbine (full rifle), as well as a BCM SFW carbine upper (their take on the Colt Canada C8 SFW rifle). Compared to the BCM, the KAC is much better balanced, shoots a lot softer, points better, is lighter, etc. You can find videos of torture tests online of the KAC SR15, one group took the SR15 E3 Mod 1 to over 20,000+ rounds without cleaning and it was still functioning fine.
I suggest going to a range that has one for you to try (if you can find one, perhaps not the easiest thing to do). I guarantee you will like it! Everyone that shoots my KAC absolutely loves it, feels like a completely different (and better!) animal than the typical ar15.
