HK P2000 LEM Problems

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I have a question for all you semi-auto lovers out there. I've been testing the HK P2000 LEM at work. We are currently shoping to replace our aging revolvers.

With the slide locked back, when inserting a mag (slaming actually), the slide of the HK goes forward without touching the slide lever. We tried the same thing without a mag and the slide still goes forward. The same thing happened with the SIG demos we had at hand. The Walther P99 did not have this problem.

I've been shooting Glocks, Springfields and S&W pistols for years and I have never experienced this before. For those of you who have a lot of experience with HK's and SIG's, have you seen this before? Is it normal?

The reps from HK and SIG cannot say for sure how many rounds the demos have shot so far, but they seem to think that it's below 50 000 rounds. From what I know, this kind of problem is normal when you get around 120 000-150 000 rounds.

Any opinions on this?
Thanks
 
This is normal. A good solid whack of inserting the magazine may move the mag catch causing the slide to close. I've done it with Glocks and seen it done pretty routinely with Berettas. Sort of unsettling, but no big deal.
 
I actually think it is a good thing. why does it concern you? As long as your finger stays off the trigger, you have nothing to worry about.
Saves you from reaching up with your weak hand thumb and pressing it to release the slide.
 
Its totally normal... every time I reload from lock I find my slide flies forward on my Glock and 1911... Never done it on a beretta though.
 
newer USP's HK corrected this "problem/ feature". My first USP did it all the time, my second usp hardly ever does it. I prefer it personally.
 
I see it often in most guns, especially as they wear in. I personally don't see it as a problem though. Is it not your intent to chamger a round after inserting the magazine?
 
I don't personnaly think that it's a problem either. I am well disciplined with a firearm. However, I am gravely concerned with the not so disciplined at work. I'm talking about the few individuals that have a hard time qualifying with a revolver at the present. They are going to be a challenge for the instructors....I can allready hear the accidental (or absent minded) discharges.

I was just curious about this little thing cause like I said, I had never seen this before with any of my handguns, new or used.

Thanks for the feedback guys.
 
maurice said:
newer USP's HK corrected this "problem/ feature". My first USP did it all the time, my second usp hardly ever does it. I prefer it personally.
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If you prefer it, next time when you load your pistol. Hit the bottom where the lanyard is with the back of your palm when you insert the mag. Does it everytime. :D
 
never thought of that, would it have something to do with the small amount of play and pressure on the hammer spring/strut in relation to the hammer?
 
works. Unless I am in slide lock I doubt I would use it. Older worn in mags I had a couple of stove pipes with snap caps, new mags worked fine. It doesn't really save any time. looks cool.:cool:
 
maurice said:
works. Unless I am in slide lock I doubt I would use it. Older worn in mags I had a couple of stove pipes with snap caps, new mags worked fine. It doesn't really save any time. looks cool.:cool:
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I could never get it to work with my azoom snap caps.
 
Works all the time with my CZ 75B however I cannot get my SP01 to do the same.

Had to readjust when loading as I really liked that feature.

D_
 
IM_Lugger said:
how hard are you supposed to slam that magazine? :confused: anyways it doesn't work with my Beretta...
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When I said slamming, I just ment a regular mag change with a good shove, just like you do in a TAP/RACK/BANG drill. I never meant slamming by using unnecessary or exagerated force. You just have to understand that I had never seen this with any of my guns, so I was kind of worried that the demos we had at hand had been fired a lot more than what the supplier was saying.
 
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