Hk p2000

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I'm thinking of getting myself a HK P2000 (haven't chosen calibre yet).
I've handled one in a shop and like the fit and feel, but I'm a little concerned with the Canadian-legal barrel extensions.
Has anyone owned one? Just looking for insight into the barrel protrusions on a compact frame gun.
 
The barrel protrusion on this model isn't too bad even if it's longer than the Glock 19 or Sig P229. doesn't affect most holsters. The gun is very reliable and very accurate. Depending on your trigger preference, most stores have the V3 DA/SA while Wolverine has the V1 LEM that is a 5 lb trigger that feels like single action with a longer trigger slack. The LEM in my hands is even better than SA as the bit of slack gives it a smooth roll like a revolver that seems to break better for me (and I'm a cocked and locked SA fan)

The gun is relatively small and in 9mm you only lose 3 rounds from full capacity, 2 in .40. The recoil spring assembly lasts around 15-20 K rounds before needing to be replaced....costs about $80 for entire assembly of rod, spring, buffer, rod end plate. HK does have a special tool to remove the end plate (otherwise you may damage guide rod) so you can switch out just spring but HK USA won't sell stuff to us. However after 15-20K rounds, $80 is not that much all things considered. Only other parts you may need to have spares of are a few springs for trigger and such, few roll pins, extra firing pin and extractor. Like most HK parts they are available but take about a year to get in so order a small parts kit and you're set, the gun will very likely NOT break before your parts arrive anyway.

Compared to older HK guns like P7 this is easy to strip and clean, detail strip perhaps not as easy as Glock or 1911 but a bit of synthetic safe gunscrubber gets the rear hammer block all clean ( I know this from some formal courses where the gun was coated with talcum powder like dust, in and out. Interestingly the gun still ran even coated with dust and grit).

The recoil spring when new is very stiff and gun may bobble with 9mm 115 grain ammo. 124 and 147gr especially are good to break it in. If you have small hands, the adjustable grips allows a good fit. Also if you prefer a less raked angle (ala Glock) this gun is more suitable for that.

In all it is currently my favorite pistol because it works well for me...this I discovered through empirical evidence, when I bought it I never thought the LEM would work better for me vs. the P7 or 1911. The reliability and toughness (also tested through rough formal gun courses) also are a selling point for me. For my needs it equals or surpasses 1911 in accuracy (in my hands) and much more accurate (for me) than my Glock 19. Only thing glock has over HK is parts are easier to get. a Bit a foresight solves that problem.

Test out v3 or v1 trigger and buy the one that works well for you, I recommend the V1 LEM.
 
BKP99 sums the P2000 up very well. It's a brilliant pistol and my personal favourite compact frame. The exposed extended barrel is not unattractive, holsters fine and could be threaded with a thread protector added for that sleek tactical look. ;)



Try out the LEM trigger if you get the chance and give it some time. It may not seem as precise as DA/SA at first, but with some trigger time, it becomes a very fast and suprisingly accurate alternative.

As for calibre, the great ergonomics and recoil buffer really do tame the brisk .40 recoil and reduce the 9mm recoil to barely noticeable, despite a relatively high bore axis. The only .40 compact with equally comfortable recoil for me is a Sig p229. It really becomes a question of ammo cost then. If you reload, .40 is quite economical and despite having a polygonal barrel, it handles cast lead just fine. As you probably guessed, .40 is my flavour and I'm very happy with it! If you're in the market for a circa $1000 pistol, give it a serious look...
 
Got mine from Wolverine a couple of months back. IMHO, this is one of the best pistols out there for fit-ability (I have smaller hands, and this thing fits great) and shootability. The LEM trigger is a bit different but is easy to use. The more you play with it, the more you will like it. (ok, that sounded bad!) I just wish they would include the extended base plates with the gun, but those can be picked up later.
 
I'm not gonna repeat what BKP99 posted.

I got HK P2000 in 9mm. Mine is a V3 SA/DA. I like it a lot, so does the wife. I wish it was in .40S&W; but the wife likes it as it is, so fat chance to get it exchanged.
I've never tried V1, but sounds like something I would want.

I also got Sig P229 in .40S&W. Before I change the trigger on the Sig, it was a toss up. After I change the trigger on the Sig with a factory Short Reset Trigger, I like the Sig's trigger better. That's why I stated that V1 sounds like something I would want.

Both guns got heavy DA triggers, >10lbs I think, but the HK has to travel more. Even after the first round is fired.
 
HK P-2000 .40 Defends the Homeland
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/hk-p-2000-40-defends-the-homeland/

...The people I have spoken to who now carry the gun after as many as 10 years with the Beretta felt very confident with the HK. They initially found the reset of the trigger from the first pull is different from the Beretta. The older gun’s was consistently the same and was a long, albeit smooth pull each and every time. The new HK has a long, light pull until it stacks up at the end of the pull. The reset is much shorter for follow up shots. Once agents can adjust to the new pull, excellent accuracy and follow up shots are within reach...

...I asked if they had any feedback from the field when it came to the weapons. So far, these weapons have gone “bang” whenever the agent pulled the trigger. As of now, there seem to be no complaints.

If what I saw was any judge, these weapons will be winners in the field for a long time to come. The CBP and DHS took their time, did their research, and made the right call in the HK P-2000.


http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/hk-p-2000-40-defends-the-homeland/

Read the comments too.

2 Responses to “HK P-2000 .40 Defends the Homeland”

* Targeteer Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:46 am

My department switched from the 9mm Glock 17 to the .40 P2000 in 2005. Literally only one man in our 100-officer department actually likes it; everyone else ranges from annoyance to out-and-out hatred.

The LEM system is genius, but the trigger isn’t as good as on older LEM guns for some reason (the USP Compact comes to mind). The grip has a horrible texture - it’s very slippery - and the front strap has a weird contour that makes me think it wasn’t designed for human hands.

It didn’t help that we went from the long-barreled Glock 9mm to the short-barreled HK .40; on our indoor range the difference in muzzle blast is incredible. The shape and texture of the grip make recoil management difficult; I shoot a lot outside of work (mostly SIGs and Glocks) and I can shoot all day. But when I shoot the P2000, I get sick of it after a hundred rounds or so. My hand actually stings after a while.

And I’m definitely not the only one who’s bothered by the pistol’s handling; the proof is in our qual scores. My department’s average qual score has dropped by 10% since we adopted the P2000. Also, we used to have about half our officers shoot a perfect score on the qual (back in the Glock days). Now, we’re lucky if one in ten shoots a perfect score.


* lmac Says:
September 12th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

I agree the HK P2000 is, for the most part, a fine gun. I have a good bit of experience with a varience of firearms, and I find the ergonomics of this weapon to be favorable, and comfortable. The sights are good, and the gun does definitely go bang every time. Three big problems though: the slide stop/release lever protrudes so far back that failure to achieve slide lock is quite common. The magazine release is designed in a problematic manner for people with short thumbs, and is unneccessarily so. Finally, the trigger is horrendous. Granted, my shooting isn’t too bad after the first 1k rds, it is still worse than any other handgun I have fired. The LEM trigger is the only reason why I would never use this weapon if I had my choice. A glock would have been a cheaper, easier to train, and overall much better choice.


http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/hk-p-2000-40-defends-the-homeland/
 
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I dislike the long pull of this gun's trigger, but I only shot about 200 or so rounds out of one in 9mm. I could see getting used to it, but very different then other triggers I've tried. When I bought a 1911, I was instantly a ton more accurate with it. Way easier to pull a SA trigger without pulling the gun over. Mind you I'm fairly new to pistols.

I also prefer the feel-in-hand of a sig 226 or a 1911, FWIW.
 
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