HK P7 Order -SFRC

ghostie said:
Nemo/hippo/Roger, whose opinion on these I really respect, also thinks that the singlestacks are the way to go, and that the grip is too thick on the doublestacks.
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A thicker grip is why I am not interested in M13. Single stack PSP fits my hand just about perfect. Anything more will feel uncomfortable to me.
 
IMO The German's got it correct with the PSP, the M8 and M13 were an attempt to Americanize the pistol.I have inadvertently bumped the mag release on the M8 during unholstering of the gun on more than a few occasions.


YMMV
 
ricka2 said:
IMO The German's got it correct with the PSP, the M8 and M13 were an attempt to Americanize the pistol.
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I have heard others say that as well. I hadn't realized until I was watching a Youtube video last night (this one) that the heel mag release is not like, for example, the Ruger Mark II .22LR pistol where you have to rock it rearward and then yank out the magazine. Instead, it's almost like (if I'm seeing it right) pushing a button inwards. That's much better than I was thinking.
 
enefgee said:
How are the M8's on the hand during long(ish) range sessions? Does the heat shield let you go for 3-400 rounds at a time.
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IMO the heat shield doesn't provide much as far as shielding heat. I used to own a P7M8, if I ran 4-5 mags through the gun one after another, the complete trigger area and front of the frame got fairly hot. If you keep shooting at a steady pace the majority of the gun gets warm/hot.

To run 3-400 rounds through one, I think you would need to have a few 'cool down' sessions.

However, they are still really cool little pistols. Compact, accurate, beautifully designed and manufactured. I kind of regret selling mine!!
 
Every gun would radiate heat after 3 to 400 rounds no???

All I know is that the m8 is heads above the psp with the heat shield as far as amount of rounds you can fire before it is down right uncomfortable to hold and shoot.

But I frickin love the heel mag release on the psp.
 
ghostie said:
1. Totally agree with blackacres above... 300-400 rounds continuously and that little gun would be radiating serious heat in all directions and exposed skin would be making a big mistake by touching the metal anywhere around the middle of the slide. In practical terms you would not get into the hundreds of rounds continuously. That kind of thing is for GLOCKs and AK-47s and whatever.

Say you have 8 mags, 8-rounders, 64 rounds total, and you decide to load them all up and fire them off continuously one after another. By about the time you are inserting mag 7, you are noticing heat radiating through the gun, especially if you are using a "modern" high 2-handed grip. The location of your weak-hand thumb is right in the heat area on this kind of grip. You are not noticing it so much that you can't shoot the gun, but it is starting to get your attention...



On the heel mag release of the PSP, it works really well. Your index finger goes over the front part of the mag that sticks out, and then you just push your thumb and index finger together to get the mag out. A totally natural movement. 2. I think the thing with the change over in mag release for the "U.S." models is that police culture stuff about being able to drop the mag with one hand while going for the fresh mag with the other hand. You simply cannot do that with a heel mag release. It takes both hands to get the mag out (unless you set the gun down, even worse) and only then can the weak-hand go for the new mag. In practical terms is this going to speed things up much, save lives, win contests? Probably not, but people like to think these things through in minute detail.
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1. Totally agree also - I'm pretty sure that the P7 wasn't developed with multiple mag dumps in mind. I have 2 PSP's and use them for IPSC (no, I don't come first but I'm never last either. Or usually out of the top 1/3 for that matter) and they work well for what they are...

2. The change of mag release location was stipulated by the US cavalry (who had much of the input into the 1911 design - like the thumb and grip safeties)...
 
I hadn't realized until I was watching a Youtube video last night (this one) that the heel mag release is not like, for example, the Ruger Mark II .22LR pistol where you have to rock it rearward and then yank out the magazine. Instead, it's almost like (if I'm seeing it right) pushing a button inwards. That's much better than I was thinking.
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yeah just like the old Beretta 92's, still it's not an ideal spot for a mag release. Traditional thumb spot is much more practical.
 
Well I think I'm about to do a deal on a basically new in box p7m8 that has been owned since new in 1985 by one guy with less than 100 rounds through it.
It was incorrectly registered as prohib. But it has been corrected to restricted.

Comes with two mags, cleaning rod and the box.

I still will buy more of these if the order is true from srfc. But this one is great and available now.
 
crunchiespg said:
Well I think I'm about to do a deal on a basically new in box p7m8 that has been owned since new in 1985 by one guy with less than 100 rounds through it.
It was incorrectly registered as prohib. But it has been corrected to restricted.

Comes with two mags, cleaning rod and the box.

I still will buy more of these if the order is true from srfc. But this one is great and available now.
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Congrats pics when you get it..
 
I didn't know much about these guns and I looked them up, really cool design. The fixed barrel, the cocking method, the gas system and the way it extracts are all cool concepts.

Congrats to anyone lucky enough to be on the top of the list.
 
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