HK P7 value
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Prices seem to be higher lately, even from when I made my post on page 1 with pics and prices. They are a weird beast, the P7s. At times people are willing to give their first born for one; and at others times they go pretty cheap. At times you cannot find one for sale to save your life; at others, its just a matter of responding to an add and sending your EMT.
The ones that were in the EE recently, those were all about $800+ high from what I thought the prices were, but if people actually paid those amounts then that is the value of them. The value of something being what someone else is willing to pay for it.
If those are the new prices... I might even have one or two for sale, but I just have a really hard time believing that an old used M13 has to set you back $3,000! I bought a BNIB one (as I mentioned on page 1) for $2,250... unfired... and that was, maybe 2 and 1/2 to 3 years ago max. I bought a used one from ARMTAC Chris for $999... way back (sarcasm) in January of 2012, and I took another one of those in trade... with a trade value of $1,500 attached to it just in April of this year.
Having said that, I understand the frustration of wanting something and not wanting to let $800 get in the way of making it happen, but... sheesh... "German-ness" is like crack cocaine for alot of Canadian gunnutz... especially the HK Kool-Aid flavour. ARMTAC Chris is probably scouring Europe for any kind of P7's, and if he gets any they are always all gone instantly.
BTW - Electrobug's extended barrel M13 is a bad comparison for anything else, price wise. That is an impossibly rare firearm. I don't know if he sold it, but it seems that he had some trouble moving it at what the collector value really ought to be (especially if it were in the U.S. or somewhere where people can collect all the variants). What people want is the plain-Jane models.
I bet, as an experiment, if I could buy heavily used PSP's in Europe now (for 300-400 Euros each, or whatever) I could sell a pile of them at $2,000 Canadian. Oh, the howling and moaning that would go on here at CGN, but I'm pretty sure a shipment of 20 or 30 would sell out in a couple of weeks at that price (instead of selling out in 1 day at $1000 a piece).
Kind of sad. I think they are the best duty-type pistols ever made. I wish they still made them. Something like a GLOCK 19 has the P7 beat on price, durability, maintenance and weight - but I give the edge to the P7 on accuracy, point-ability, speed to target, speed of shooting, safety, and the edge overall. The P7s are also amazing works of engineering which are unlike anything ever seen in pistols, and unlike anything we will ever see again. I think the GLOCK 19 weighs about 2/3 what a P7 does, hold more rounds, and costs less than half. That is what killed the P7, but I still shoot mine every weekend and have no plans of stopping!!
The ones that were in the EE recently, those were all about $800+ high from what I thought the prices were, but if people actually paid those amounts then that is the value of them. The value of something being what someone else is willing to pay for it.
If those are the new prices... I might even have one or two for sale, but I just have a really hard time believing that an old used M13 has to set you back $3,000! I bought a BNIB one (as I mentioned on page 1) for $2,250... unfired... and that was, maybe 2 and 1/2 to 3 years ago max. I bought a used one from ARMTAC Chris for $999... way back (sarcasm) in January of 2012, and I took another one of those in trade... with a trade value of $1,500 attached to it just in April of this year.
Having said that, I understand the frustration of wanting something and not wanting to let $800 get in the way of making it happen, but... sheesh... "German-ness" is like crack cocaine for alot of Canadian gunnutz... especially the HK Kool-Aid flavour. ARMTAC Chris is probably scouring Europe for any kind of P7's, and if he gets any they are always all gone instantly.
BTW - Electrobug's extended barrel M13 is a bad comparison for anything else, price wise. That is an impossibly rare firearm. I don't know if he sold it, but it seems that he had some trouble moving it at what the collector value really ought to be (especially if it were in the U.S. or somewhere where people can collect all the variants). What people want is the plain-Jane models.
I bet, as an experiment, if I could buy heavily used PSP's in Europe now (for 300-400 Euros each, or whatever) I could sell a pile of them at $2,000 Canadian. Oh, the howling and moaning that would go on here at CGN, but I'm pretty sure a shipment of 20 or 30 would sell out in a couple of weeks at that price (instead of selling out in 1 day at $1000 a piece).
Kind of sad. I think they are the best duty-type pistols ever made. I wish they still made them. Something like a GLOCK 19 has the P7 beat on price, durability, maintenance and weight - but I give the edge to the P7 on accuracy, point-ability, speed to target, speed of shooting, safety, and the edge overall. The P7s are also amazing works of engineering which are unlike anything ever seen in pistols, and unlike anything we will ever see again. I think the GLOCK 19 weighs about 2/3 what a P7 does, hold more rounds, and costs less than half. That is what killed the P7, but I still shoot mine every weekend and have no plans of stopping!!
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Excellent input Ghostie.
I agree with you that the prices will be what ppl are willing to pay for them at that one point&time, but I also feel that the variance in the said prices is a little wonky, to say the least.
Excellent input Ghostie.
I agree with you that the prices will be what ppl are willing to pay for them at that one point&time, but I also feel that the variance in the said prices is a little wonky, to say the least.
If you think HK prices are wonky, checkout Sig P210-5, 6, ie the real P210s, not the new Germany knock-offs
I don't even bother looking for 210's anymore!
Too rich for my blood when you can get two very fine pistol for the same price. Perhaps one day when the collection will have reached a certain size I'll think of crowning it with a 210-6
I was very interested in the P7's when they first came out but the heel mag release was the only turn off for me. Then I saw the Americanized variant with the ambi mag release at one of the gun stores. $717 with 2 mags for an M13! I ordered an extra mag at $140! (I balked at the price but one really must see the M13 mags up close to appreciate the typical German engineering and craftsmanship) making the purchase almost a grand after taxes! That was a lot of money for a young man back in the early 80's! I'm glad to hear I could double my money if I need to. It's the only handgun in my safe that has NEVER failed to fire...and that includes one week where I shot the thing with the extractor removed as an experiment! I'm so glad I buckled down and bought one when I did!
