HK416/MR223 Info Thread

Finally got it in the mail today :d

The current small HK family

Good choices - very nice rifle. I like the ambi controls on yours. My small HK family is very similar: an MR556 I've had for years with the older cheese-grater quad rail, diopter sights, and the bulkier stock, along with a recent HK45. Love my HKs!

 
Just picked them up! Put a quad rail on the upper as they come with no hand guard. And swapped out the slimline stock for the 416 E1.

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This should be a sticky thread. Lots of good info on here.

And I too prefer the e1 style stock over the slimline stocks.
 
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Ya it would be nice if there was a info thread for the MR308 too.

NS imported a bunch of MR308A3 in 2015/16 when they got the HK distributorship, including both the "patrol" version and the "G28 dressed up version" ( not the G28 clone that HK is releasing soon). There are some older MR308 floating around imported by the now defunct FN sports. I have never seen a MR762 from the US in Canada.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1534899-IWA-2017-Heckler-and-Koch-Part-3-HK-MR308-and-MR223-Rifles

I don't think NS had ever imported the 13" and 20" versions.
 
I have added some information about the steel "rumoured" to be used by HK to the first page. If you like metallurgy and understand that stuff it could be a fun read.
 
Hi

It's quite public knowledge in Europe that HK uses french steel from A&D for barrels. They even put this forward when they offered the HK416 to replace the FAMAS

:)

Vincent
 
Here is the thing - barrel making steel is not really bloody trade secret. Going to any trade shows it is not hard to figure out where or whom to buy steel from.

But, how much can you buy? and how much do you want to pay for it? Is your country embargoed or having problems with export permit for the steel you want to buy?

Next, does your engineers know WHAT to buy and what heat treatment and stress relief need to be for the purpose? Does your shop know how to control the process from deep boring to running that hammer forger?

With KGH, the sales pitch is that A&D boasted to make the "cleanest" CrMoV steel compared to other similar products made by other steel mills. That is kinda half of it, HK probably specifies the heat treatment and stress relieve, that is something they probably will not say too much.

I posted a youtube of an interview with Norinco engineers. The biggest challenge the Chinese claims to encounter in developing precision small arms is the quality of steel as well getting consistent heat treatment and stress relieve results.

The not so deep conclusion is that, you cannot just buy AISI 4140 steel, do QPQ surface hardening on it and claim it to be as good as HK 416 barrel. The graph in the first post shows that, and the Chinese engineers at Norinco pretty much said that out loud.
 
Yep

Problem usually starts when you want to make the lightest possible barrel while staying in the specs. The 1960's M16 pencil barrels are a good example of these problems
 
Anyone know where I might find a MR223 barrel nut wrench and MR223 barrel mandrel here in Canada? I know it’s a long shot but I thought I’d ask before I import them.
 
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Unbelievable build quality
 
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