HKP7 Gold Plated?

[mmattockx]

Mmattockx, If I can get down Airdrie way this summer I will bring a couple of P7's along for you to try. Very addicting habit once you start.

PM me if you are heading this way and we will work out a range meeting.

Mark

 

[WolFF]

I think that's a pretty ridiculous statement to avoid the PSP because it could have been fired 20,000 rounds. Buy a certified refurbished pistol by the HK factory and you're fine! Even the "C" grade pistols have quite beautiful internals. I've never seen a new refurbished in box PSP look like a used pistol with the exception of the external and this was always cosmetic. I have a lot of experience with PSPs and I've seem some ugly ones, freckles, totally purple, dents, dings, long holster scratches and the worst.. rust. However, never one that looked like it saw more than a few hundred rounds and this was with a hard look and squint at the barrel. In regards to the trigger guard. It's plastic and doesn't allow for being a heat shield or for dissipating heat so, engineering wise, it fails. The m13 is uncomfortably thick and completely destroys the concept of the compact design of the P7. I feel the opposite way about the euro release as well. I know a lot of shooters don't have any difficulty adapting to them but they seem cumbersome to me. Although, the concept that your hand is right there which allows for you to drop the mag into your hand instead of the floor is kind of nice.

Tim.

ah canada day booze in me, i forgot to re-read my post and add some facts, i meant to also add in about my comment with the 20,000 rounds + i heard they werent "REALLY" a refurb where parts were replaced,, they were just -cleaned, very well. but thats from a hk rep, so i dont know how to comment on that. also, the price the "used" "refurb" p7 now is actually too high, the price arms east brought them in for a year or 2 ago, i cant remember just about when , they were going for $8**. something. thats what they are worth, and will always be worth as a used gun, i know the dollar is different now, supply and demand and all that. but to me ,900 max for a p7 psp used,refurb etc. and theywere who knows how cared for, like any police firearm trade in. but again, thats just my opinon, and why i would avoid them, and ive seen some nasty ones, and they didnt look anywhere near decent. ive never seen any with rust like you mentioned, which i was actually surprised to hear, i never would have thought to see rust on a p7, but like all metal it can rust, that must have been well abused.

about the triggerguard, i wasnt refering to the heatshield ,because they didnt work for $hit, good try though on hk's end, but still no cigar. i do however like the size, as i have really big hands and long fingers and it adds a more unique look. i agree with the m13 statement, its not a true p7 as they were only designed for LEO, but i have to say it does fit my hands nicely, but i still prefer the m8 over the m13. please dont get me wrong all p7s are nice and i do like the psp/p7 , i just dont like any of the ones that were brought into this country. i feel we got alot of rejects. and about the mag release, i dont feel hk went all out on the m8/m13 design, as for me its not a smooth release, and i dont like to use my trigger finger to release the mag. and my thumb doesnt smoothly release it. and im a fan of the euro style, only on the p7 all others like sigs i cant stand.

actually about the m8 to m13 grips, nill grips on the p7m8 is a perfect fit for me, as the nills are a tad bit thicker than the factory plastic grips yet no where near as thick of a grip as the m13.

 

[capp325]

It's not that I am cheap, but to me no gun is worth $2000+, I am just not that commited (or obsessed?) to a range only gun. I do have a garage full of motorcycles and understand fully spending whatever it takes to scratch the itch. If that is what it takes, then that is what it takes.

So what are you complaining about? Don't want to spend $2000 on a pistol? Then don't. No one's holding a gun to your head.

I just look at a P7 and see no more manufacturing cost than any other semi auto pistol and shake my head at what HK thinks it is worth.

If you can't see how the P7 is much more expensive to manufacture than Glock or CZ-75, you must be pretty new to handguns. P7 is a forged steel, gas-delayed pistol manufactured in Germany to a very high standard of quality. Take one apart and you'll see that it's like a Swiss watch on the inside. In contrast, Glock is a loosely fitted, plastic-fantastic that looks and feels like it was made by Mattel and costs about $75 to produce, while CZ is cast metal gun built by Czechs working for $5/hour. But hey, at least you didn't compare the P7 to Norinco.

 

[cjs]

An exceptional pistol. On my dream to buy sooner than I think list. $5 a day for a year for a used one approximately I cut out going out for coffee a while back, and don't eat out much - to better afford things that matter more.

 

[timothydgordon]

also, the price the "used" "refurb" p7 now is actually too high, the price arms east brought them in for a year or 2 ago, i cant remember just about when , they were going for $8**. something. thats what they are worth, and will always be worth as a used gun, i know the dollar is different now, supply and demand and all that. but to me ,900 max for a p7 psp used,refurb etc. .

The lowest price (if your dealer can get one) on a newly shipped from the HK factory refurbished HKP7PSP is $1,199 (give or take 2%). The better condition, the more you pay.

My buddy paid $1,200 for his nine months ago and at that time I couldn't believe the price for a refurbished "C" grade pistol. This however is the reality of the situation. His at the time of purchasing had a few deep dings, significant holster wear, was a deep purple/plum colour and had freckles of rust. The internals however were excellent. I examined it closely when he purchased it and examined mine and was surprised at the quality of the internals. I've since seen at least a half dozen more P7PSPs fresh from the factory refurbished and all the internals have been quite nice and not just clean but free of any significant looking wear or strain. I pay special attention to the bore and especially examine the frame where it connects to the barrel and haven't seen a single one that looked like it was significantly used. In fact, the only place I've ever heard of seeing a refurbished P7PSP is on the internet where the internals were clean, well greased but clearly strained. The author of the article specifically mentioned paying a substantial discount through a U.S. dealer for a low grade pistol.

Tim.

 

[SandRoad]

Gee, if you are balking at $2000 for a P7 then I guess that $4700 or $6700 for an SVI 1911/2011 would be out of the question (Click on CRAFM link at top of page and go to "Products".)

The P7 series is quite something to behold, and a very unique pistol.

 

[NAA]

P7

Shot one didn't care for it/them. Wouldn't waste my money on one.

NAA.

 

[WolFF]

The lowest price (if your dealer can get one) on a newly shipped from the HK factory refurbished HKP7PSP is $1,199 (give or take 2%). The better condition, the more you pay.

My buddy paid $1,200 for his nine months ago and at that time I couldn't believe the price for a refurbished "C" grade pistol. This however is the reality of the situation. His at the time of purchasing had a few deep dings, significant holster wear, was a deep purple/plum colour and had freckles of rust. The internals however were excellent. I examined it closely when he purchased it and examined mine and was surprised at the quality of the internals. I've since seen at least a half dozen more P7PSPs fresh from the factory refurbished and all the internals have been quite nice and not just clean but free of any significant looking wear or strain. I pay special attention to the bore and especially examine the frame where it connects to the barrel and haven't seen a single one that looked like it was significantly used. In fact, the only place I've ever heard of seeing a refurbished P7PSP is on the internet where the internals were clean, well greased but clearly strained. The author of the article specifically mentioned paying a substantial discount through a U.S. dealer for a low grade pistol.

Tim.

yes , i have seen them selling for that price, but to me , they are not worth that. 1200+ is silly, if you paid that, then i sure hope you enjoy it, and shoot it as much as you can, and keep that p7 for life, enjoy, and happy shooting.