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I bought a Hobart 1612E meat slicer off my butcher and am in the process of refurbishing it for home use. WOHOOOOOO!

Just wondered if anyone on here has any experience with these slicers on here.

I have been in contact with Hobart Canada and they have been helpful but I do not want to annoy the guy to much.

If anyone on here works with these or on these often let me know in this thread and I have a few more questions for you.

First few.

What size wrench is it to take off the knife retainer nut 1-1/8" is my guess ( I don't have one but am borrowing one tomorrow to see if it fits)

Under the motor cover is a plate with a bearing in it the the motor rotor shaft rotates in, should this just pull off or is there some sort of retainer/pressure fit that I am unaware of. I can not pull it off and the motor shaft is held in by the motor switch which i have not been able to take off yet (dont have a 11/32 wrench)

What gear oil do they use, and what color "should" it be mine is brown and THICK 140wt is my guess ?

Is it possible to take the gauge plate apart? It looks like it is held together with crews that have been ground off and buffed (My plate has separated near the front (Knife end) and meat is getting stuck there (not good for cleaning)

I am sure I will have more questions, any other aspiring home meat processors in here ?

I did 4 deer at home this year with my little bro (not a hunter) and had a blast, bought a few commercial meat tubs from the butcher supply place in Edmonton, a boning knife (Victorinox- great knife by the way) and went at it. (Also got a meat grinder attachment and a Cuisinart from my parents this year as an engagement gift and it works very well for hamburger)

And jsut because I like photos in threads

This is what it looks like.

Borrowed Photo off the net if you want photos of mine or about the parts I am asking about just let me know.

Mine looks just like this except in pieces right now and I am missing the indexing knob

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s**t assault weapons ban talk on TV gotta listen in now. (US news)

Oh and this slicer KICKS ass for anyone that cares. It weighs 90 lbs.
 
Now you need a good size hunk of prosciutto and start cutting it up real thin. mmmmmmmmmm
I believe my butcher has 4 of those same units and has been useing them as long as i could remember.

brown and muddy? not good.
usually oil is reasonable clear / almost see through, and to me any way, smells good and should not be sharp smelling. No clue what it takes, thats probally a question for the Hobart guy.
 
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My father has rebuilt at least 5 of those, mostly Berkels though. Unfortunately he doesn't go on the interwebs. We do all of own processing too. And because you like pics:

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Now you need a good size hunk of prosciutto and start cutting it up real thin. mmmmmmmmmm
I believe my butcher has 4 of those same units and has been useing them as long as i could remember.

brown and muddy? not good.
usually oil is reasonable clear / almost see through, and to me any way, smells good and should not be sharp smelling. No clue what it takes, thats probally a question for the Hobart guy.
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Mmmm thinly sliced meats... I am going to try making prosciutto as I was inspired by what was posted on here about it.

I knew the oil would have to be changed, I am pretty sure the change is from smoked meat lol its not muddy so much as it is the color of smoked meat.

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My father has rebuilt at least 5 of those, mostly Berkels though. Unfortunately he doesn't go on the interwebs. We do all of own processing too. And because you like pics:
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Well if you have time maybe mention a few of my questions to him, I always appreciate any help someone can give. Processing at home is fun, I am going to try my hand at sasuage soon as well, so I am sure to have more questions.

First up is corned deer though I think.

I have already mastered the art of the deer burger (it involves ground deer and ground bacon) mmmm good stuff and just the right amount of fat.

Nice photos I bought the same tubs, and I you brew beer as well. I am about to try that out soon to. My little bro found a place here in Edmonton where you can take a food grade bucket and they will fill it up with their wort for you.
 
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Well if you have time maybe mention a few of my questions to him, I always appreciate any help someone can give. Processing at home is fun, I am going to try my hand at sasuage soon as well, so I am sure to have more questions.
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Will do. BTW, that's wine in there, not beer.

"The Art of Making Fermented Sausages" is a must-have. Our moose hunting group met last night to go over the upcoming season and we put a pretty good dent my dad's Tuscan salami supply.
 
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Will do. BTW, that's wine in there, not beer.

"The Art of Making Fermented Sausages" is a must-have. Our moose hunting group met last night to go over the upcoming season and we put a pretty good dent my dad's Tuscan salami supply.
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You do wine in grolsh bottles? A keg is a keg could be any mystery subtance in those LOL but the grolsh bottles are just for beer, no ? Mmmm wine, my dad is making me some Valpocella right now, yum.

Thanks for the book tip.
 
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We have lots of hobart equipments at my work (not meat slicers). We use a food grade white lithium grease for lubing up our mixers.
 
I have this thing mostly stripped down but having trouble getting a few nuts off some studs.

I drained the oil, it was ugly.

Ill put a few pictures up and see if anyone has any ideas on what I should do next.

Its been a fun projects buts lots and lots and lots of scrubbing.
 
Ok so here are the photos.

Just showing the parts I have removed and started to clean up. Notice the broken gauge plate (going to have to get a friend to weld that together)
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Just showing the gear oil I drained.
Nasty stuff

Not sure what the plug in front of the main plate is for. I believe it is to drain oil that may have seeped past the bearing that goes into the gear case. It was plugged with a cork. Gear oil did seep into the motor because I was tring to remove the armature.

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This is where I am having some problems.
This is the bearing plate (holds one side of the armature)

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To pull the armature out I need to undo these nuts, but I can not get a wrench on them enough to more than just budge them, also tried sliding a socket down, but I cant get a grip on the socket body enough to turn them.

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This is looking down from the top at the shaft and bearing in the plate. I think it should just pull out but corrosion is not letting me pull it out, and I do not want to damage any of the electronics inside.
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From this photo (found on ebay) it looks like I should just be able to pull the bearing plate off and then it would be easy to get the nuts off, which would allow me to pull the armature out.

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TIA
 
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Dremeled them off, new problems now LOL will post a few photos later, along with some before and after photos of EVAPO-RUST. This stuff works great.
 
Made some progress.

To get the nuts off I used a dremel.

Rotor removed
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This is hopefully showing why I can not remove the bearing plate from the rotor. Notice all the oxidation. I used some evaporust on it, and have let it sit with penetrating oil, but it still will not budge. Next I will try applying some heat, if that dose not work. I will drill a hole on the other side and use a pulley puller to get the plate off for cleaning and polishing.

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This is the seal that goes between the slicer body and the large bearing to keep gear oil out of the motor area. I will be buying/making a replacement for this. It measure 1-5/8" outside diameter and is 1/4" wide.

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This shows the heavy oxidation/rust on the stator retaining clips. So next up was to remove those. I used a socket pushed it down over the threaded rod. A hammer and screw driver to tap it onto the nut and vice grips to rotate it after. Be more careful than me, I broke 3 of the studs off while twisting the nut off.

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As you can see broke some of the studs here.
Going to have to remove them and put new ones in (will be stainless). I did get all the retaining clips off though.

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From here I am not sure where to go. I tried to remove the stator by pulling on it, no go. I tried to heat the body of the slicer with a propane torch, still no go. Not sure how to get it out. Need to remove it now to replace the broken studs and give it a good cleaning. I will be polishing the inside of the motor housing as well.

This is the back of my gauge plate. It was separating from the stainless steel front and had a large gap at the front where food could get caught so I pulled it apart. I used a dremel to cut slots into the buffed off bolt head and backed most of them out, a few broke and 2 where not even holding the buts (thus the separation). While I was removing it I cracked an old repair that had been done. I am going to try using aluminium brazing rods to fix this part.

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This is the inside of the stainless steel front, showing the location of the nuts. There was a hard silicone seal that was all the way around the outside that had long ago failed (thus all the rusty nuts). I am debating if I will redo that seal with silicone or I may just braze the whole thing together when I get it all cleaned up.

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Gauge plate front.
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These are the broken bolts that hold the gauge plate to the gauge plate support and slide rods. I have tried heat to get them out, that did not work. I will try evaporust, and if that dose not work, I will drill them out.

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This is the hole in the knife hub that I have to fill with grease I think.

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This is showing the before pictures of the hardware and the plate that covers the gear case. (Gear case cover is painted steel and was very rusty, but not leaking.

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This is after a one day soak in EvapoRust. It worked great, I will clean up a few things with a wire brush and then paint with a rust converting paint (tremclad) for protection.

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This shows the before and after on one of the bolts i snapped on the gauge plate.

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Just showing some of the details of the bottom of the slicer. I removed the cover for the switch and that is derusting right now as well.

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Bottom of the slicer, and I am not sure what the plate on the left is covering (if anything), I tried really quick to take out the screws last night but they would not budge, I will try some heat on them this weekend to see if I can get it off.

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So yeah, how do I remove the stator?
 
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