Holosights ... smallest on market?

I like the rmr as it requires no battery. These have been tested ( all of them) up to a crazy amount of g's. They are often mounted on pistol rails that are subject to bidirectional recoil and a crazy amount of daily abuse unrelated to recoil. Great little optics and will handle the recoil fine, just fine.

Sold the leupold delta point as quite often the dot will reflect off both surfaces of the glass giving the shooter two dots. It needs some work to be perfect. The nice thing about the leupold is it's motion activated so it shuts itself off extending battery life, and is there when you need it without having to turn it on. The dot is a triangle on the leupy.
 
I wouldn't #### around with the RMR or similar sights....Get an Aimpoint T1 or H1 with either the stock mount or a low ADM mount and call it done.
 
Wrong Way said:
I'm a fan of the mini red-dots, and for the money the FF is excellent...

*however*: what I REALLY want is one with a reticle similar to the eotech/holo site. I don't know why it hasn't been done, but I'd be willing to sacrifice my left arm for one :)
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Thats cause of the way that they create the reticale in this thing. It is all about an l.e.d. and the way they bend the glass or use the mirror for reflection.
As for the RMR tritium/fiber optic models please relieaze that these only come in Amber witch washes out nicley in bright enviroments and also there MOA rating is between 7 to 13 MOA. Hence why they came out with the RMR in battery power red dot that is only 3.25 to 8 MOA.
Trijicon Non-Battery Powered Reticale display click here
 
I have tried quite a few of these small units (Burris, Docter Optik, Leupold, Trijicon), and my experience is that the Trijicon units are the toughest. Their shape does really protect the lenses from getting chipped. I have had several of the other units get banged on the top of the dome and this sheared a chunk of lens in every case. Trijicon has addressed this.
One common fault with all but the Trijicon adjustable LED is that the dots are automatically adjusted for the ambient (overhead) light. If you are out in bright sun, the dots will be bright. If you have overhead cover and are shooting out into a bright field the dot may just get washed out. This is not a common situation, but it can happen.

We also still have a few RMRs left in stock, and are using several on range guns if you would like to give one a try.
 
Shooting Centre said:
I have tried quite a few of these small units (Burris, Docter Optik, Leupold, Trijicon), and my experience is that the Trijicon units are the toughest. Their shape does really protect the lenses from getting chipped. I have had several of the other units get banged on the top of the dome and this sheared a chunk of lens in every case. Trijicon has addressed this.
One common fault with all but the Trijicon adjustable LED is that the dots are automatically adjusted for the ambient (overhead) light. If you are out in bright sun, the dots will be bright. If you have overhead cover and are shooting out into a bright field the dot may just get washed out. This is not a common situation, but it can happen.

We also still have a few RMRs left in stock, and are using several on range guns if you would like to give one a try.
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With the new RMR red dots Trijicon has tried to address these issues you will notice from the photo's below. Although the Insight is much more robust and stronger unit than the new RMRs.
Old RMR said:
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Developed to improve precision and accuracy with any style or caliber of weapon, the Trijicon RMR™ (Ruggedized Miniature Reflex) is designed to be as durable as the legendary ACOG. The RM01 is an LED sight powered by a standard CR2032 battery. Housed in rugged forged aluminum, the RMR is extremely tough yet lightweight. New easy-to-use adjusters with audible clicks allow for quick windage and elevation adjustments. The new Trijicon RMR™ is tougher than any alternative and suitable for military, law enforcement and hunting applications.
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New RMR said:
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Developed to improve precision and accuracy with any style or caliber of weapon, the Trijicon RMR™ (Ruggedized Miniature Reflex) is designed to be as durable as the legendary ACOG. The RM06 is an LED sight powered by a standard CR2032 battery. Housed in rugged forged aluminum, the RMR is extremely tough yet lightweight. New easy-to-use adjusters with audible clicks allow for quick windage and elevation adjustments.
With eight available brightness settings, the reticle can be manually adjusted by pressing the plus or minus buttons on either side of the unit. To switch to auto adjust mode simply press both buttons simultaneously and release. To save battery life turn the optic off by pressing both buttons simultaneously and holding for 3 seconds.
The new Trijicon RMR™ is tougher than any alternative and suitable for military, law enforcement and hunting applications.
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I'm not sure what I'm trying to do will work or not until I have it all together. I'm building a shorty M14 in 243 and have a small picatinny rail that I want to mount a small optic on and see if it works ... if not, I'll stick to the XS iron sites I have coming for the build and sell off the optic.(whichever I decide)

Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA

Pictured here is something from M14forum that shows what I'd like to try ... the optic on the mount where the stripper clip guide goes.

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Oto, Maybe I should sell you my rmr so I can switch to an h1, makes no difference to me what sits on the shotgun.
 
Otokiak said:
I'm not sure what I'm trying to do will work or not until I have it all together. I'm building a shorty M14 in 243 and have a small picatinny rail that I want to mount a small optic on and see if it works ... if not, I'll stick to the XS iron sites I have coming for the build and sell off the optic.(whichever I decide)

Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA

Pictured here is something from M14forum that shows what I'd like to try ... the optic on the mount where the stripper clip guide goes.

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Now I know were your coming from I can help ya get the right gear for your rig. Get an Ultimax Rail and with a MRDS or similar optic you can still use your stock expensive sights. Or get the Sage striper clip rail and not the M14.ca 1 and again you can still use your iron sights if you want to.
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Here is the Ultimax with an aimpoint combo. Although I find that it is too busy of a sight picture for me;
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Satain said:
With the new RMR red dots Trijicon has tried to address these issues you will notice from the photo's below. Although the Insight is much more robust and stronger unit than the new RMRs.
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They are not old and new but rather adjustable and non adjustable LED. Both options are still available.
 
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Well it appears I'm almost ready to have my shorty 243 M14 built and now I'm back to thinking of this set up ... as the picture here is exactly what I'm looking for ... what is the site on the stripper-clip guide rail????

Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA
 
Otokiak, I just emailed desert warrior products about shipping that rail. Does anybody know if they have a problem shipping to Canada? They list the rail at 65$ on their site. I posted a similar question in the Battle Rifle section as I am looking at mounting my Fast Fire like that. I currently have it on my Casm mount that I had while the rifle was scoped. I hadn't seen the sage rail and I was going to mount it on a cheaper stripper clip rail but the sage one is much lower.

Derek
 
I just put a Burris FFIII on my Ruger Mark III. I really like this sight but I would not put it on a bush rifle though as I don't think it would survive the abuse. It's pretty tough but maybe not that tough...
 
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