Holster Question
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Well it depends on what you're gonna use it for? Daily carry or competition? For competition you'll want a belt holster.
i hate the slowness of putting on a belt holster. i suppose if you're ok with it being as unrealistic as possible, you could have a separate dedicated gun belt, in which case you get a belt holster and then put the belt on over top of whatever you're wearing. if you want it to emulate real life, then... i dunno, maybe paddle is quicker and easier to put on / take off. i ordered a paddle - we'll see how i like it once i have it in my hands and get to try it out.
actual carrying like some other countries do. up here, firearms are only a fun sport, and not a tool or anything (unless one is a LEO or security or military). whether you like it or not, canadians are very much sheltered and "protected" from things by our government - many things are controlled, illegal, taboo, etc. firearms weren't invented for shooting at paper targets - they were invented for combat / attack / defense. all we're allowed to do up here is play sports / games that emulate things that we're sheltered from.
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Impossible to answer unless you tell us what you are planning to use it for.
Range wear, as in plinking etc/
IDPA?
IPSC?
John
I emulate real life 12 hours a day, with a belt holster, on a separate dedicated gun belt...
But, back to the OPs question: A paddle is easier on, but usually just as much of a pain in the ass to remove, in my experience. Although most of them claim to be quick to remove, all of the varieties I have tried require you to undo your trousers to get enough leverage to unhook the paddle from below your belt line inside your trousers.
I have also found some paddle designs to be really uncomfortable, with the paddle digging in to the side of my hip. You have to try them on, to see what fits you and your waist / hip.
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I have no idea as to the purposeful meaning of your post in relation to this thread. You want to emulate real life at home with your holster? The only time you can wear the holster and actually make use of it is at the range in a sport like IPSC, PPC or IDPA. There I believe you'll be better served with a belt holster.
^ well, the OP asked which is better. i dunno, i would guess that "better" would depend on a lot of things, some of which is how easy it is to put on or take off or how nicely it's made or how fast it is to access the gun or any of a number of other things. some people use holsters for official use, others for flat-out competition, others to replicate what they could or would do when they are in the USA where CCW is permitted (if they happen to have a license for it). some people may want something simple and basic, others have a dedicated belt with the holster and mag puches mounted on it.
in any case, holsters are cheap enough that trying one type isn't really a big whoop.
there was one article i found online about the differences in non-range use of the two types. if i can find it i'll link it here, but it did make a strong case FOR the paddle type.
in any case, holsters are cheap enough that trying one type isn't really a big whoop.
there was one article i found online about the differences in non-range use of the two types. if i can find it i'll link it here, but it did make a strong case FOR the paddle type.
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I'm quite happy with my Safariland 6377. The ALS locking system is quick and easy to use and seems pretty rugged. I have the belt loop mount but you can get the paddle version too. And from what I've read on LightFigther, the paddle mount works well at retaining the holster. Like the previous posters, you almost have to get naked to get it off.
Safariland advertises it as a concealment holster but the way it rides makes it stick out too much and you'll see it easily through clothing.
You can order it from Wolverine Supplies.
http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=6377
Safariland advertises it as a concealment holster but the way it rides makes it stick out too much and you'll see it easily through clothing.
You can order it from Wolverine Supplies.
http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=6377
I prefer a belt holster. I've had a number of different paddles, but as noted they can be just as hard to remove as a belt holster so they really aren't much more convenient.
One plus to some paddles is that belt loops won't interfere. Placement of a belt holster can be affected by belt loops on some pants. Not a huge difference really. Best solution is to find a holster that can use either type of attachment and experiment with what works best for you.
You also need to make sure you have a good belt suitable for carrying a holster. A great holster of any kind can be undermined by a flimsy belt.
One plus to some paddles is that belt loops won't interfere. Placement of a belt holster can be affected by belt loops on some pants. Not a huge difference really. Best solution is to find a holster that can use either type of attachment and experiment with what works best for you.
You also need to make sure you have a good belt suitable for carrying a holster. A great holster of any kind can be undermined by a flimsy belt.
good point. i guess on the holster it's less of a bother than on mag pouches (at least for most people) since the belt buckle isn't on the holster end of the belt, so there's less futzing around to do. when i was borrowing mag pouches, it was a PITA to put them on cuz first i had to take my entire belt off, and then figure out which loops to skip in order to have the mag pouches in a good accessible spot, and then if it turns out that it wasn't a good spot take the whole thing off and put it on differently. at least this goes for a belt that's actually the main jeans / pants belt. i suppose with a separate gun belt it's a non-issue - but i've never tried those.
for mag pouches i would definitely take a paddle-type (or just shove them into my pocket). for the holster - eh, either works i suppose.
http://w_ww.comp-tac.com/product_info.php?products_id=101
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This holster is based on the Alessi CQCS and actually fits better than an Alessi. Delivery time to Canada is about 2 weeks. Belt holster, easy on/off.
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This holster is based on the Alessi CQCS and actually fits better than an Alessi. Delivery time to Canada is about 2 weeks. Belt holster, easy on/off.
The needs, advantages and rules for IPSC and IDPA are varied enough that you'll need two holsters to best cover both activities. For example IPSC rules specifically call for a holster to be securely attached to a belt. That rules out paddle holsters right off the bat. IDPA requirements also call for height and body spacing measurements that are not an issue for IPSC where some drop and offset is allowed. Because of this the IDPA legal belt holsters will slow down the draw speed for many shooters when compared to IPSC legal holsters. Similarly the Bladetech DOH model, which is quite popular for IPSC Production, is very clearly in violation of the IDPA holster rules on at least three counts.
seriously dude a holster is not a fashion accesory.. if you have that much trouble putting on a holster and some mag pouches then I suggest you go buy a mumu or two.... cause putting pants on is just as easy.
belt holster for the most part offers a more consistant draw because there is little to no "belt slide" (ie: the holster stays put in both the horizontal as well as vertical planes)
if you have something in your "house" then a paddle holster wouldbe better as you can just slip it in... but always make sure to do a couple of practice draws with it before you trust it is seated in your pants properly, ie: when you grab the gun you don't want the holster to come with it, or the holster to come 2-3 inches up and hinder your draw.
