holy crud i found a svt 40 (1941 star) sniper

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found a number matching (not the mag though) svt 40 sniper....... is this the holy grail of svt 40? stock is in perfect conditon, triger guard has matching numbers , bolt and gas piston etched with number...... What is the opion of value on this rifle? yes i bought it from the same place as the 1941 kovrov.
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Mr_jonny said:
found a number matching (not the mag though) svt 40 sniper....... is this the holy grail of svt 40? stock is in perfect conditon, triger guard has matching numbers , bolt and gas piston etched with number...... What is the opion of value on this rifle? yes i bought it from the same place as the 1941 kovrov.
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They worth about $400, they have been refurb but its always nice to find them. I have 1 too, will try to sight the scope soon as the weather will get warmer.
Joce
 
Maybe this is the time to open up the can of worms???

For many years, the only place you could find SVT snipers were from PS Militaria (a dealer I have dealt with many times and whom I trust). The only problem was that all his snipers had export markings on the top receiver "DE 07 UA", but sometimes you need to settle for what you could get.

As a result I purchased two rifles (1941 and 1942 Tula's snipers). Time goes by and I find a 1941 Tula sniper within a crate of rifles, very similar to the rifle pictured in this thread. The nice thing was that it had no export markings. As a result I sold my first 1941 sniper.

Later on, I noticed that my non-export marked Tula sniper had the distinctive "C" marking on several original components. The same "C" marking that you find on 91/30 authentic snipers and on the rifle pictured in this thread. None of the Export marked snipers that I have seen, have these "C" markings.

Question is, are they original snipers???

The tougher question is how to prove it either way. Info and photo's of authentic examples are far and in-between

I do trust Jean and my export marked sniper does look like it was machined during the war.

One explanation:
"that officially sniper SVT's were produced only in Tula (38006 in 1941 and 14220 in 1942). But some number of Izzy and Podolsk (yes, Podolsk, not Kovrov, SVT's never were produced in Kovrov, it's a mistake) rifles were converted to snipers in army workshops during war. If they have lack of sniper rifles, they just take rifles with best accuracy, and add notch for mount fixing to them (because rails were almost at all SVT issued in 1940-1941).
Some of such rifles were found in the ground at battlefields, so they certainly exist.
You could read more here, use Google translation, it's russian forum
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/164/959884.html

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/firearms-ordnance/svt-4-0-sniper-165970-2/"

As per the Kovrov comments, I don't know what to believe?
 
West Rifle sells a repro scope/mount. Your other option is to get a repro mount of Ebay and then find an SVT scope or buy one of the authentic 91/30 snipers with an original SVT scope and finish it that way. The one problem, is 90%+ SVT scoped were re-calibrated and have a CB when they were mated to a 91/30 sniper.
 
agentcq said:
Maybe this is the time to open up the can of worms???

For many years, the only place you could find SVT snipers were from PS Militaria (a dealer I have dealt with many times and whom I trust). The only problem was that all his snipers had export markings on the top receiver "DE 07 UA", but sometimes you need to settle for what you could get.

As a result I purchased two rifles (1941 and 1942 Tula's snipers). Time goes by and I find a 1941 Tula sniper within a crate of rifles, very similar to the rifle pictured in this thread. The nice thing was that it had no export markings. As a result I sold my first 1941 sniper.

Later on, I noticed that my non-export marked Tula sniper had the distinctive "C" marking on several original components. The same "C" marking that you find on 91/30 authentic snipers and on the rifle pictured in this thread. None of the Export marked snipers that I have seen, have these "C" markings.

Question is, are they original snipers???

The tougher question is how to prove it either way. Info and photo's of authentic examples are far and in-between

I do trust Jean and my export marked sniper does look like it was machined during the war.

One explanation:
"that officially sniper SVT's were produced only in Tula (38006 in 1941 and 14220 in 1942). But some number of Izzy and Podolsk (yes, Podolsk, not Kovrov, SVT's never were produced in Kovrov, it's a mistake) rifles were converted to snipers in army workshops during war. If they have lack of sniper rifles, they just take rifles with best accuracy, and add notch for mount fixing to them (because rails were almost at all SVT issued in 1940-1941).
Some of such rifles were found in the ground at battlefields, so they certainly exist.
You could read more here, use Google translation, it's russian forum
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/164/959884.html

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/firearms-ordnance/svt-4-0-sniper-165970-2/"

As per the Kovrov comments, I don't know what to believe?
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My sniper came from Westrifle, no import stamp. As far i can see, no "C" stamped anywere. The notch seems right,that all i can say. I think Westrifle had only 5 or 6 of them, they picked the best rifles without checking if they were ex sniper or not. If i remember well,Sergey told me that they found out when they came in Canada that they had ex sniper. Anyway,i got the notch,got a mount and a original 1941 scope so i will have something to play with when spring will be here. So manys differents infos on Tokarev, hard to know if they are facts or rumors....
Joce
 
Due to the lack of documents about svt 40 and other russian surplus , no one will know. I would like to figure the puzzle out before the prices jump( yes they will). I would trust the accidental finds over advertised ,due to the price difference. Kind of on the same subject people says izvehsk stopped making svt in 1942 , but I got one with the square mark(1944). It is not for sale and thus I have nothing to gain from it. How much of the knowledge out there are myths? All four of my svts have the lower groves but only one have the notch.

I would like to ask the community to post the marks they have on their snipers.( please and thank you) maybe we can shine some light on them
 
oh cool my bad. I can totally respect that and know even though these are refurbs we still treat them like unissued gold. Thats the only thing I would ever do to one of these beauties,strip the bolt to its original state and naturally fire her every once in a while.
 
My 1942 Tula sniper with West Rifle Scope/Mount. Pretty accurate actually, I will need to post a target.

1942 snipers were less common as they were phased out during that year. Just as rare is a 1941 SVT without the scope side rail.

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Mr_jonny said:
Due to the lack of documents about svt 40 and other russian surplus , no one will know. I would like to figure the puzzle out before the prices jump( yes they will). I would trust the accidental finds over advertised ,due to the price difference. Kind of on the same subject people says izvehsk stopped making svt in 1942 , but I got one with the square mark(1944). It is not for sale and thus I have nothing to gain from it. How much of the knowledge out there are myths? All four of my svts have the lower groves but only one have the notch.

I would like to ask the community to post the marks they have on their snipers.( please and thank you) maybe we can shine some light on them
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Izhevsk continued production but at lower rate.
Joce
 
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