Honest thoughts 22-250 vs 6.5 creedmoor on yotes

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I haven’t used 22-250 much other then on paper until recently and love how effective it is on yote. But I am looking for an excuse to drop a barrelled action into a stock I got on a trade. Just curious how effective it is not just as a long range paper poker.
 
6.5 will likely be easier to find ammo for. People use .22 LR and Magnum on coyotes with success, so normal short action cartridge will kill them even deader.
 
My line of thinking would be similar. A .22-250 will kill them dead as dead, 6.5 Creed can't really kill them deader. The .22-250 will shoot flatter, but drift in the wind more. The 6.5 will drift less, but be more of a rainbow trajectory. I guess the one thing you can say is gravity is consistent and can be accounted for, wind is constantly changing and must be accounted for variably.

6.5 ammo will likely be more money. Definitely more recoil.

Im all for a new rifle just because. But I can't see it being a better coyote cal then the .22-250
 
Jordan Weber said:
My line of thinking would be similar. A .22-250 will kill them dead as dead, 6.5 Creed can't really kill them deader. The .22-250 will shoot flatter, but drift in the wind more. The 6.5 will drift less, but be more of a rainbow trajectory. I guess the one thing you can say is gravity is consistent and can be accounted for, wind is constantly changing and must be accounted for variably.

6.5 ammo will likely be more money. Definitely more recoil.

Im all for a new rifle just because. But I can't see it being a better coyote cal then the .22-250
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The chart I'm looking at says they're about even to 400 yards, and by 1000, the 22-250 has dropped almost double over the 6.5CM.
 
I used a 260 lots over the years, and 223, 22-250's, 220 swifts, etc, comparing the 260 (pretty close comparison to a 6.5 CM) it is great for yotes, the 85 gr Sierra HP shoot flat, and on average leave a 2" hole on exiting side, 95 gr hornady v-max's would leave 4" exit holes on average, in the future I'm looking forward to running some 120 Barnes x-bullets, to try to keep the exit hole as small as possible.
The 22-250's would usually make it to the other side hide, and shrapnel would make it threw the hide in a few places, depending on range the 22 cal projectiles tend to not come out the other side and if they do it's just the pedals,
 
Tokay444 said:
The chart I'm looking at says they're about even to 400 yards, and by 1000, the 22-250 has dropped almost double over the 6.5CM.
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You may very well be right. I didn't look too closely at the charts. But if you take a mid weight 6.5 bullet (say 130gr) and a mid weight .22 bullet (50gr) I would assume the 6.5 Creed would drop more. Now if you loaded the light 85-90 gr bullets in the 6.5 you might be flat as the .22-250 again, but you end up with a bullet that doesn't buck the wind very good anymore either.

The fact is you can turn the 6.5 Creed into almost a .22-250, but I think you will end up giving up some of its supposed merits to get there, namely the Ballistic coefficient you get with heavy, long slippery bullets (which the light for cal bullets likely won't be) and the ability to shoot heavy bullets, which the 6.5 caliber cases are known for. But I may be barking up the completely wrong tree.

This is all just my opinion. YMMV
 
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Jordan Weber said:
You may very well be right. I didn't look too closely at the charts. But if you take a mid weight 6.5 bullet (say 130gr) and a mid weight .22 bullet (50gr) I would assume the 6.5 swede would drop more. Now if you loaded the light 85-90 gr bullets in the 6.5 you might be flat as the .22-250 again, but you end up with a bullet that doesn't buck the wind very good anymore either.

The fact is you can turn the 6.5 Creed into almost a .22-250, but I think you will end up giving up some of its supposed merits to get there, namely the Ballistic coefficient you get with heavy, long slippery bullets (which the light for cal bullets likely won't be) and the ability to shoot heavy bullets, which the 6.5 caliber cases are known for. But I may be barking up the completely wrong tree.

This is all just my opinion. YMMV
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The heavier bullet is going to have less drop for the same velocity, generally.
 
Assuming bullet placement is good... a .22-250 is all you need out to 3-400m on coyotes, and is likely a better choice than a 6.5 in most semi-rural/small farm areas due to noise and less chance of the lighter bullets ricocheting. The -250 can also be pretty fur-friendly with most bullets, whereas the 6.5's will be pretty hard on hides. If noise and fur damage aren't a concern, and especially if you're stretching the range and there is any significant wind, the 6.5 will have a real advantage.
 
Tokay444 said:
The heavier bullet is going to have less drop for the same velocity, generally.
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Bullet drop is caused by 1 thing, gravity. All Bullets drop the same amount for a given amount of time. Lighter bullets have higher muzzle velocities but worse BC's, so they'll drop less on shorter shots but the velocity they lose will make a heavier bullet drop less after a certain distance, that distance is determined by where the two have equal flight times.

As for fur damage, a soft point 6.5mm will have a good chance of putting a nice clean hole right through the coyote due to the small body size not being enough resistance to cause expansion.

Long story short, both will work, and a fast twist 22-250 is one of the best coyote cartridges out there, but nothing wrong with a 6.5cm if you have one. If I was building a rifle for yotes I'd look at 6cm over 6.5cm.
 
I had smacked a yote at 10 yards right square in the front section with the 30-06 while calling a buck in, darn near ripped the yote in half. Paralyzed from the neck down.... but practically the same shot with the 22-250 granted different bullet types dropped right in its tracks. I was curious if I might end being better off with the smaller diameter as minimal as it is.
 
Redneck107 said:
I had smacked a yote at 10 yards right square in the front section with the 30-06 while calling a buck in, darn near ripped the yote in half. Paralyzed from the neck down.... but practically the same shot with the 22-250 granted different bullet types dropped right in its tracks. I was curious if I might end being better off with the smaller diameter as minimal as it is.[/]

.22-250 is one of my favorite hunting cartridges but factory twists leave it wanting, although the .22 Creedmoor has me considering making a change. However up close like described I have found most centerfires rifle cartridges to produce some spectacularly large wounds at least some of the time particularly if bone is struck. The .22 Hornet or WMR would be much more hide friendly if consistently shooting coyotes under 70 yards.
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I read a post of a bloke that shot roe buck, much the same size of a coyote and from 80-265 yards ( 70ish - 240ish meters ) the exit was about 1 inch Hornady 43 ELD-X was the ammo. so I can see this working very well on a coyote. Last winter about a dozen were taken at my friends place with a 223 so I think this winter it will be a creedmoor season lol
 
Blastattack said:
6.5 will likely be easier to find ammo for. People use .22 LR and Magnum on coyotes with success, so normal short action cartridge will kill them even deader.
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Gonna have to explain that one to me. Every small town hardware store, Walmart, and Canuck Tire that sells ammo has .22-250. Not so in the slightest on 6.5 Creed. Great round but fractionally as common as .22-250.

Both will work on coyotes and have essentially the same case capacity, as a pure varmint round the .22-250 wins and surprised we’re even talking about that. Flat trajectory is where it’s at for coyotes, .22-250 is flatter at all ranges that matter in coyote hunting. It has lighter recoil, and more smack down on animals below deer. Speed kills.
 
Redneck107 said:
I haven’t used 22-250 much other then on paper until recently and love how effective it is on yote. But I am looking for an excuse to drop a barrelled action into a stock I got on a trade. Just curious how effective it is not just as a long range paper poker.
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Do you sell your coyotes on the fur market? They're still worth quite a bit, unlike most other furs.
Shoot them with a 6.5 and they won't be worth much.
 
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