Hornady 9.3 bullet explosion again.........................

"Kamlooky" ......................I just can't get used to you conversing in English........somehow it just doesn't seem natural........in fun......Harold
 
Harold I've been shooting a 338 wm w/ a Hornady 225 interlock . Been using it for elk and moose . Haven't had one of the hornadys react like that yet. By the way congrats on the whitey and I like your rifle .
 
9.3mauser said:
I would expect a bullet like that to shoot lengthwise through a deer without coming apart. I would certainly not expect to recover a bullet from a broadside shot, bone or no. Deer are not particularly large or heavy boned in the relative scheme of things. Just because the animal was recovered doesn't mean the bullet behaved as it should. It was just a matter of luck that the deer was recovered, and I don't like trusting to luck. Had that been a bear or elk, bullet performance like that could very well have resulted in a lost animal.
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The amount of damage in that deer does not suggest a "lucky" recovery to me?! I think some of you guy's need to go into the bullet manufacturing business, wave your magic wands and produce the perfect "smart" bullet that detects if it hits a moose, deer, elk, rhino etc. and reacts accordingly! :redface:
 
Like Partitions,Scirroco's ,Woodleigh and Barnes ? The deer was going nowhere with a severed spine .........any bullet would have stopped it and the recovery was never an issue.I have never found a 160gr Hornady 6.5x55 in a moose regardless of angle shot .Harold
 
I ran into the same BS with 270gr interlocks in my 375 Ruger. Nailed a black bear with it and had a fist sized entry hole. Now the factory ammo I have is relegated to whitetail hunting, same performance as on a black bear, I just make sure not to hit them in the meat.

Pretty silly bullet performance considering the Hornady 375 Ruger 270gr boxes are allegedly in the "dangerous game" series and have pictures of cape buffalo, rhino, and elephant on the box.
 
And people called me crazy when I said that the new 6.5 129 interlock wasn't the same as the old ones I had that came in red boxes with metal corners. The reputation the interlocks earned is no longer warranted IMO with how they make them today.
 
We had a similar issue two weeks ago with a .308" 180gr interloc. We hit a buck in the rear half on the run. Put a fist size hole on the way in and out. Not to happy with them, wont buy them again...unless there was a fire sale then I would buy them as utility bullets for target shooting.
 
kman300 said:
And people called me crazy when I said that the new 6.5 129 interlock wasn't the same as the old ones I had that came in red boxes with metal corners. The reputation the interlocks earned is no longer warranted IMO with how they make them today.
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Amen,
They aren't the same and anyone with an end mill , 2 minutes and an old and new bullet would come to the same conclusion within 30 seconds of comparing the two. Jackets are thinner, interlock feature is smaller and has been moved in some bullets Ive examined.
I dont use Hornady's interlock bullets anymore , ttsx's, partitions and weld cores haven't let me down once. I've killed a pile of game with cheap Privi Partisan 285's in the 9.3x62 and the x57 and never had a failure with one of those either.
A pic of the 165 ttsx out of my 300 win mag that busted a neck and scapula and a pic of my partners 286 partition from a 9.3x62 . This years moose, range was 30yds
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kman300 said:
And people called me crazy when I said that the new 6.5 129 interlock wasn't the same as the old ones I had that came in red boxes with metal corners. The reputation the interlocks earned is no longer warranted IMO with how they make them today.
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They were just calling you crazy. Nothing about the 6.5 bullets. ;)
 
It's interesting how differently people view terminal ballistic performance. Some people get upset when they don't get total penetration and a exit hole and yet other people will swear by things like VLDs that go off like a hand grenade. I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder but if the anaimal dies and drops on the spot I have a hard time saying that the projectile "failed" or didn't do its job.
 
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Unfortunate shot placement, shooting animals in the back like that with any Caliber from big magnums to a 308 result in big holes and lots of meat loss.
 
With the amount of input into the 9.3 bullet test the 9.3 286gr interlock coming completely apart is pretty much a given.http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1216462-9-3-bullet-test-started-pics-posted-in-1?highlight=9.3+bullet+test There's enough evidence shown that members of this forum should be avoiding hunting with them. When mbogo3 contacted hornady he did the right thing. If more people do that there's a small chance there may be change.

I've shot over a dozen deer with the 7mm 139gr interlock. The boat tails performed better than the flat base. I did have jacket core separation but I still had great penetration. I had a point blank doe quatering toward me. The jacket was under the hide after passing through the heart. Because she was quartering the core exited just behind the rib, entered the back leg, shattered the femur, and exited the back leg again. I'm not worried about finding the jacket under the offside hide. Cow elk at 110yds, broke a rib going in, broke the offside leg at the big knuckle below the scapular, only the jacket under the hide.

It seems like the 9.3 in particular is a junk bullet, reports on the 358 250gr are good. My experience with 7mm 139gr gives me confidence.
 
As stated the old Hornady's were fine including the 160gr in the 6.5x55 I was moosing with.I have had other caliber Hornady Inter-lock failures with recent manufacture bullets in 7mm and .270 Harold
 
That bullet performance is crap........ I just because the animal is dead, doesn't mean the bullet did it's job....... even if the shot placement was not ideal, the bullet shouldn't disintegrate and leave shards of metal throughout the wound channel.....
 
BTW total meat loss one tenderloin..........one shot .......one dead....... on the fly through poplar cane......Harold
 
9.3mauser said:
I would expect a bullet like that to shoot lengthwise through a deer without coming apart. I would certainly not expect to recover a bullet from a broadside shot, bone or no. Deer are not particularly large or heavy boned in the relative scheme of things. Just because the animal was recovered doesn't mean the bullet behaved as it should. It was just a matter of luck that the deer was recovered, and I don't like trusting to luck. Had that been a bear or elk, bullet performance like that could very well have resulted in a lost animal.
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Really? I'd trust that on a bear or moose with absolutely zero hesitation. It's what I've come to expect from non-bonded bullets. Sometimes they stay together, sometimes they don't. My Berger .338 makes essentially the same hole at close ranges as well. I've found the jacket several times on cup and cores. But never find the lead. The jelly is what you should come to expect if you use a canon.
 
Looking at the different bullet testing threads, it becomes apparent that a larger diameter and heavier bullet that is of similar construction to a smaller diameter and lighter bullet gives surprisingly similar performance, particularly if the impact velocities are similar. For example, I'd expect a similarly constructed bullet of approx the same SD launched from a 270 WIN and 375 H&H at similar velocities to behave similarly.
When you really think about it, the difference between a 270 and 375 isn't actually as big a deal as most of us make it out to be. Where the larger cartridges become really useful is when loaded with tougher (typically "premium") bullets for increased penetration.
 
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