hornady bulk 308 fmj
- Thread starter muzzleblastm38
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That is a great bullet. I get mine from Henry at Budget Shooter supply. Try using WW 748 (I use a CCI LR primer in FC cases with that load). I use it in my M-14's and an AR build I have. I am shooting the gong at 500 m at our range consistently with that powder/bullet combination. 748 is a ball powder and flows smoothly through my meter and you can get some decent deals on the powder if you buy it in 8 pound kegs.
paperslayer
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a pet load for one gun won't always wrork in another, varget is a fabulous powder but varies a great deal from lot to lot I would still start with Varget and put the ogive near the lands and find a powder load that gives the best results. 80+% of competitive shooters in FTR and TR shooting use Varget.
What twist is your barrel? 1:10 is a bit much for those short length/light weight bullets
What twist is your barrel? 1:10 is a bit much for those short length/light weight bullets
Nonsense. Varget doesn't vary "greatly" from lot to lot. Of course, there's always the possiblity of there being some variation but it's not as dramatic as you imply.
Where do you get the idea that 1:10" twist is too much for 150gr. bullets? The over-stabilization myth is just that - myth.
paperslayer
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Well master yoda, clearly you haven't worked with many 6BR, and other ~30 grain cartridges. I have needed as little as 29 grains of varget and as much as 32.4 to make a 6BR do 2900fps. damned near 10% variance. That isn't significant??
As to over stabilization, ask why Palma and TR shooters use 13 and even 14" twists with much longer 156 bullets? Call me an idiot, after all I am a big boy and you're only arrogant. Talk to the hall of fame Palma ant TR shooters and ask their opinion on the matter.
Just more proof that the bigger a prykk you are the more your opinion MUST be right.
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- The Orion Arm
Palma shooters need to keep a 155-grain bullet supersonic at 1000 yards and they normally use barrels 30-32" in length. Is that what the OP has in mind?
Here's a quote from 6mmBR.com concerning the twist rate on .308s.
"A 1:10" twist rate will let you shoot the popular medium and heavy 30-caliber bullets up to the 210-grainers from Berger and Sierra (provided your barrel delivers enough velocity for the heavy bullets). A ten-twist can also work well with the lighter projectiles. John Whidden, who won the recent U.S. Palma Team Trials, has had great success shooting 155gr Bergers with a Broughton 10-twist 5C barrel. A 1:11" twist, found on many factory rifles, is a good compromise. Palma competitors using the Sierra or Lapua 155s have favored 1:12" or 1:13" twist rates, with the theory being that a slower twist rate may offer better velocity since there is less friction in the barrel. A 1:13" twist is fine for deer hunters who prefer a 150gr-class bullet moving 2850-2900 fps."
Most of us aren't Palma competitors, so I would hazard a guess that most of us don't care.
Here's the link, BTW. OP........tons of good info on it, and I reference this site often since I started reloading .308
http://www.6mmbr.com/308win.html
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Here's a quote from 6mmBR.com concerning the twist rate on .308s.
"A 1:10" twist rate will let you shoot the popular medium and heavy 30-caliber bullets up to the 210-grainers from Berger and Sierra (provided your barrel delivers enough velocity for the heavy bullets). A ten-twist can also work well with the lighter projectiles. John Whidden, who won the recent U.S. Palma Team Trials, has had great success shooting 155gr Bergers with a Broughton 10-twist 5C barrel. A 1:11" twist, found on many factory rifles, is a good compromise. Palma competitors using the Sierra or Lapua 155s have favored 1:12" or 1:13" twist rates, with the theory being that a slower twist rate may offer better velocity since there is less friction in the barrel. A 1:13" twist is fine for deer hunters who prefer a 150gr-class bullet moving 2850-2900 fps."
Most of us aren't Palma competitors, so I would hazard a guess that most of us don't care.
Here's the link, BTW. OP........tons of good info on it, and I reference this site often since I started reloading .308
http://www.6mmbr.com/308win.html
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Listen Luke,
If you want to be a Jedi, you need to focus and stay on topic. Capiche? BR & TR has NOTHING to do with the OP's topic question. Or, do these illustrious individuals you name drop just happen to use bulk .30 cal FMJ bullets in competitive shooting situations?
Your experiences with Varget may vary from the majority - that much is clear. If Varget generally had as much variation as you suggest, no one would use it - especially TR and Palma shooters. What your saying doesn't make sense. Maybe, you had a bad batch of powder? Who knows?
I don't think you'd have much support for making claims that a .30 cal. 1:10" barrel is over-kill for 150gr. class bullets. If anything, 1:10" gives you far greater flexibilty in bullet choice and increases the probability of projectile stability at longer ranges.
