Hornady ELD match load data

[MartyK2500]

I have the Hornady 10th here.
178ELD match
Col 2.800"

178Amax
Col 2.800"

I just fought with my Hornady "special case".
I had to neck size it, then Dremel slots old school into it, as it would not measure properly. Was showing a way way short false lands situation. Seems to work now. Got numbers for my ELDx 143 and Berger 140 VLD H.

A small info that's very nice of you to share!

This data proves to be non working in my rifle.
With ELD match, touching the lands at 2.760'' OAL
With BTHP match, touching lands at 2.810'' OAL

By hornady special case, do you mean the threaded one that threads on the OAL hornady tool?
That's what I used to determine lands

 

[rick357]

Hornady is cheaper because it's plinking ammo.
If I we're more serious and into competing, i'd be playing around with SMKs and Bergers
Anyways that's an opinion I have made listening to others over the years, might be wrong.

Forster seater on the way, will buy a comparator to measure off ogive soon, will give these bullets a round 2.

OK, whatever floats yer boat. I use Redding Competition dies, Forster Neck Bump and sizing and Comparator. Also use Lee Precision Collet and seating dies. Guess what? They ALL work. It ain't the dies. For bullets I use Hornady, Berger, Sierra TMK's. Whatever works - and they all work pretty much the same ONCE you have them tuned up with the right parameters for your rifle. As I said, the main issue we are discussing here is the bullet and where it meets the lands or how far it stays away, which is 100% controlled by the seating die. Get the seating insert to work properly and the ogive to lands will be consistent, no matter if the distance on the bullet ogive to tip is off by a thou - or even two or ten.

 

[Lead hammer]

A small info that's very nice of you to share!

This data proves to be non working in my rifle.
With ELD match, touching the lands at 2.760'' OAL
With BTHP match, touching lands at 2.810'' OAL

By hornady special case, do you mean the threaded one that threads on the OAL hornady tool?
That's what I used to determine lands

Yes that one. Mine was messed up, I think the bullet was going in crooked into the chamber, and could not make it to the lands.

 

[Kosmic]

 

[MartyK2500]

Quite puzzling
My BTHP match are ok at 2.800" OAL while ELD match the bullet is pushed 40 thous in at 2.800" OAL
I also find it funny that they list max loads at 42.4gr of Varget, seems low

Anyhow, today i made a decision to drop hornady
Unless my new bullets don't perform, don't think i'll go back
Probably keep them to plink in a gas gun

Today i purchased the tried and true Sierra MK 175gr
Got high hopes for these ones, consistency wise at least.

 

[Jordan Smith]

I think you guys are having a problem with your seating die stems. Either you're having an issue with a seater stem, doing something wrong, or have a terribly faulty box of bullets. Here is some data from some bullets I just measured:

Hornady .224" 75gr ELD

1.119" OAL
0.140" tip length

Weight ---- BTO using tool ---- OAL

1 - 74.9 gr-BTO (tool)-1.575"-1.103" (tool) = 0.472" - OAL - 1.118"
2 - 74.7 - 1.574 - 1.119
3 - 74.9 - 1.575 - 1.119
4 - 74.9 - 1.575 - 1.119
5 - 74.8 - 1.574 - 1.119
6 - 74.8 - 1.574 - 1.118
7 - 74.8 - 1.575 - 1.118
8 - 74.9 - 1.575 - 1.118
9 - 74.8 - 1.574 - 1.119
10 - 74.9 - 1.575" - 1.118

Ave - 74.84gr - 1.5746" - 1.1185"
SD - 0.06992gr - 0.00052" - 0.00053"
ES - 0.2gr - 0.001" - 0.001"


Hornady 7mm 180gr ELD

OAL - 1.541"
BTO - 0.659"
BTO tool - 0.701"
Tip - 0.140"

Weight ---- OAL ---- BTO with tool

1-180.0gr - OAL-1.537"-BTO(tool)-1.805"-1.103"=0.702"
2-180.0-1.537-1.806
3-180.1-1.537-1.806
4-180.0-1.537-1.806
5-180.1-1.538-1.806

Ave - 180.04gr - 1.5372" - 1.8058"
SD - 0.0548gr - 0.00045" - 0.00045"
ES - 0.1gr - 0.001" - 0.001"

6.5mm 147gr ELD

OAL - 1.437"
Tip - 0.140"
Bearing - 0.559"
BT length - 0.148"
BT base width - 0.228"

Weight ---- BTO with tool ---- OAL

1-147.0gr-BTO(25cal tool)-1.870"-1.103"=0.767"-OAL-1.4355"
2-147.1-1.871-1.4365
3-147.0-1.870-1.436
4-147.0-1.870-1.436
5-147.0-1.8695-1.436
6-147.0-1.870-1.4365
7-147.0-1.870-1.435
8-147.0-1.870-1.436
9-147.1-1.870-1.436
10-147.0-1.870-1.436

Ave - 147.02gr - 1.87005" - 1.43595"
SD - 0.042gr - 0.00037" - 0.00044"
ES - 0.1gr - 0.0015" - 0.001"



Here's a group from my 7WSM shooting the 180 ELD during the first range session developing the load. Only a few shots, but ES was 6 and SD was 3. The next range trip kept that load around 0.5MOA and after a dozen shots, ES was 14 and SD was 5: