Hornady LnL AP
- Thread starter spideysteve
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- Location
- Fort St John BC
maybe try a differant sizing die rcbs carbide dies are what i've used and nothing else to compare against
I have a low ceiling (including light and hvac) in that area, so the bench was too high. I built a wooden tongue part way down the bench, and bolted it to the press with a piece of maple flooring. Ghetto, but it works. Then reinforced everything as much as possible.
Someday I'll have a real bench in a better location. Maybe.
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- Location
- Fort McMurray
Awesome article crash ... thanks a bunch!
- Location
- Fort McMurray
Anyone ever had problems with the LnL bushings slipping in any way? If so, did you have to set up the die and fool around with it again?
Dies never loosen within bushings but my Powder charge station would loosen and lift at first and need to be corrected by re-tightening the L&L lug 1/8th turn. This was due to excessive press movement, cured by securing the bench better as mentioned in my earlier post.
I had been using my LnL for about 9-10 months, and am quite happy with it. I haven't reloaded before. I reload pistol calibers only. I DO lube my brass, this makes for an easy sizing, except for occasional glocked case that's super-bulging. 
I am still on the slow side, about 350/Hr, but am considering getting a bullet feeder. No case feeder because there are occasional (1 every 50?) lock-ups on the eject tab, but I don't want to mess with pawls adjustment - not yet, anyway.
I am still on the slow side, about 350/Hr, but am considering getting a bullet feeder. No case feeder because there are occasional (1 every 50?) lock-ups on the eject tab, but I don't want to mess with pawls adjustment - not yet, anyway.
If you're aiming for the "ubiquitous" 700 per hour, you'll first need to invest in more primer filler tubes as this will be an obvious bottleneck. Also, if you've got the case feeder, I'd get that working, with assistance from Hornady or whomever. A properly functioning case feeder makes all the difference in the world and will no doubt get you to 500 / hr at a very easy working pace, all else remaining equal.
Dig out your manual and adjust those prawls as necessary. No point in attaching a lot of expensive extras in an attempt to make up for a poorly functioning unit. That ain't gonna happen!
Not really aiming, just shooting from the hip.
I actually made a ghizmo out of a Lee Autoprime, kind of like Franklin arsenal's discontinued product. It lets me load the tube in about 1min so I'm happy with that part.
I don't want a case feeder because that's my 'quality time' to examine cases just before loading. I do want a bullet feeder, however, and already have the dies for it. As for occasional rounds failing to eject, I just give it a little push and it drops into the bin every time. I know you're right about adjusting those pawls, but I always fret technical challenges - until I do it once & calm down.
One day perhaps...I hear ya aridan, the prawl issue has a certain voodoo quality.
When you do get to it. Have a pencil and paper with you, make small adjustments and record them. That way you can always get back to square 3 . Really, once you get your hands on it it's not that scary .
"Small adjustments, very small".
When you do get to it. Have a pencil and paper with you, make small adjustments and record them. That way you can always get back to square 3
. Really, once you get your hands on it it's not that scary ."Small adjustments, very small".
- Location
- Fort McMurray
So ... got my new LNL AP about a couple weeks ago ... set it up a bit at a time in the evenings after work ... so far I've loaded about 300 rounds of .40 on it ... I freakin love this machine ... just an awesome unit and I'm glad I went with it ... just waiting on my bullet feeder and case feeder (which are on back order right now) ... thanks for all the info!!
- Location
- Halifax, NS
By both rotors, do you mean the cylinders only, or the cylinders WITH the pistol and rifle micrometers?
Thanks!
- Location
- Fort McMurray
It came with both rotors and both micrometers. IE .... One for rifle and one for pistol ...
HTH
I have had 3 issues with my press and case feeder in the past 6 weeks of ownership.
First off my large primer slide would catch when it would go back to pick up a primer.
Everything was clean etc I had to grind the slide down to be exactly the thickness of the primer for it to work.
The large primer punch would also protrude above the sub-plate and the slider would come forward and hit it.
It hit it so many times that it actually chipped the front of the slider off.
I called Hornady customer service and they were very nice to deal with.
They shipped me out a new slider and punch and they just arrived this past Friday.
I haven't had a chance to try them out yet because I've been working on getting my .223 setup to work.
My major issue is with my .223 setup which is 2 problems in 1.
First of all when the cases are being pushed forward by the shuttle they tip forward not when trying to enter the shell plate but while they're being slid towards it.
Secondly the case being ejected after being processed at station 5 doesn't eject towards the bin but towards the shuttle crashing the incoming and outgoing cases together.
This means that an empty case will end up just about anywhere from below the sub plate to on top of the shell plate.
I have looked at my shell plate and even borrowed one that works flawlessly for a friend of mine and I'm still having trouble to the point where they're sending me a new sub plate to try.
It took me 45 minutes to make 100 .223 rounds with all the stoppages.
I've also had a bad can of Hornady One Shot Case Lube which would allow cases to stick in my brand new and properly degreased Hornady New Dimension dies.
They couldn't ship me an aerosol can so I took a tub of unique case wax instead.
I ended up buying an RCBS Lube Die which eliminated my stuck case problem all together.
This past weekend I purchased a Hornady MicroJust Micrometer-Style Seating Stem which replaces the standard seating depth adjustment stem on the new dimension dies.
The standard seating depth adjustment stem is hollow and has a hole in the top of it.
This allows the air to escape from the die as the bullet and case comes up into the die.
The Microjust has a solid stem with no hole so the press takes on a hydraulic feeling to the point where you would need 2 hands to operate the press.
I will be calling Hornady Monday morning on this latest issue.
I am hoping that all of these issues get resolved before my bullet feeder arrives since my friend who purchased his press the same day as me has absolutely no issues at all.
If I was at the other end of the Hornady customer service line I would begin to wonder by this time if the person at the other end of the line (me) was mechanically incompetent.
Fotunately for me I'm an HVAC technician who has 23 years of experience troubleshooting both mechanical and electrical problems with 6 of those years being at the manufacturer level.
If I cannot get this setup to work as it was intended to I will end up going blue which probably has its own set of issues.
First off my large primer slide would catch when it would go back to pick up a primer.
Everything was clean etc I had to grind the slide down to be exactly the thickness of the primer for it to work.
The large primer punch would also protrude above the sub-plate and the slider would come forward and hit it.
It hit it so many times that it actually chipped the front of the slider off.
I called Hornady customer service and they were very nice to deal with.
They shipped me out a new slider and punch and they just arrived this past Friday.
I haven't had a chance to try them out yet because I've been working on getting my .223 setup to work.
My major issue is with my .223 setup which is 2 problems in 1.
First of all when the cases are being pushed forward by the shuttle they tip forward not when trying to enter the shell plate but while they're being slid towards it.
Secondly the case being ejected after being processed at station 5 doesn't eject towards the bin but towards the shuttle crashing the incoming and outgoing cases together.
This means that an empty case will end up just about anywhere from below the sub plate to on top of the shell plate.
I have looked at my shell plate and even borrowed one that works flawlessly for a friend of mine and I'm still having trouble to the point where they're sending me a new sub plate to try.
It took me 45 minutes to make 100 .223 rounds with all the stoppages.
I've also had a bad can of Hornady One Shot Case Lube which would allow cases to stick in my brand new and properly degreased Hornady New Dimension dies.
They couldn't ship me an aerosol can so I took a tub of unique case wax instead.
I ended up buying an RCBS Lube Die which eliminated my stuck case problem all together.
This past weekend I purchased a Hornady MicroJust Micrometer-Style Seating Stem which replaces the standard seating depth adjustment stem on the new dimension dies.
The standard seating depth adjustment stem is hollow and has a hole in the top of it.
This allows the air to escape from the die as the bullet and case comes up into the die.
The Microjust has a solid stem with no hole so the press takes on a hydraulic feeling to the point where you would need 2 hands to operate the press.
I will be calling Hornady Monday morning on this latest issue.
I am hoping that all of these issues get resolved before my bullet feeder arrives since my friend who purchased his press the same day as me has absolutely no issues at all.
If I was at the other end of the Hornady customer service line I would begin to wonder by this time if the person at the other end of the line (me) was mechanically incompetent.
Fotunately for me I'm an HVAC technician who has 23 years of experience troubleshooting both mechanical and electrical problems with 6 of those years being at the manufacturer level.
If I cannot get this setup to work as it was intended to I will end up going blue which probably has its own set of issues.
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They do not come with micrometers.
They sell the micrometers separately and they are engraved with numbers on them just like the word micrometer would suggest.
It comes with large and small rotors.
Each rotor has an adjustable cylinder.
One for pistol and the other for rifle.
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