Hornady One Shot case lube

I also agree the case isn't getting stuck on the expander, if that was the problem the casing would be a long ways out before it got stuck. It is getting stuck in the die. I have noticed that the better quality dies are far less prone to sticking and require less lube, I am guessing it has to do with the polishing on the inside of the die, where cheaper dies are not as "finished".

I also think imperial wax is about the best thing for lubing there is, if I wasn't using the wax, I would be making my own lube with lanolin and alcohol.
 
Cleftwynd said:
I also agree the case isn't getting stuck on the expander, if that was the problem the casing would be a long ways out before it got stuck. It is getting stuck in the die. I have noticed that the better quality dies are far less prone to sticking and require less lube, I am guessing it has to do with the polishing on the inside of the die, where cheaper dies are not as "finished".

I also think imperial wax is about the best thing for lubing there is, if I wasn't using the wax, I would be making my own lube with lanolin and alcohol.
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The .223 case was stuck fully inserted into the sizing die, which means the expander would be at the bottom of the inside of the case cavity. The primer pin was clearly sticking out of the empty primer pocket. The shell holder simply pulled itself off the case's rim on the downward stroke of the ram. I've been reloading for about 30 years....I don't claim to know all there is about reloading, but I do know in this case it's the One Shot case lube that's the problem, perhaps only with very small rifle brass such as .223 Rem. As I mentioned earlier, I've got a .223 Rem RCBS die set on the way, so I'll try it again.
 
Well... 'Seems to be two camps.

One group has nothing but trouble with One Shot and hate it
The other reports no issues...

Me thinks it's user error.
 
667 said:
Well... 'Seems to be two camps.

One group has nothing but trouble with One Shot and hate it
The other reports no issues...

Me thinks it's user error.
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Laugh2 You must be in the car business. How on earth can it be "user error".....seriously? Applying case lube is not rocket science. C'mon now....
Here's the unescapable fact: My .223 brass runs through my Lee sizing die effortlessly with RCBS Case Slick. With One Shot, almost every case jams solidly in the sizing die. If you read my original post, you'll see that I tried every combination of lubing technique imaginable with the One Shot product and my .223 brass; nothing changed. Even brand new .223 brass stuck solidly in the die. You'll also see that I ran some .308 Winchester and 300 Win Mag brass through using One Shot. Although it required a lot more effort than with RCBS Case Slick, the brass didn't stick in either sizer die (both Lee and RCBS, btw). My point is that there is something inherently wrong with the One Shot formula that makes it ineffective with .223 brass.
 
Six Star said:
How on earth can it be "user error".....seriously? Applying case lube is not rocket science. C'mon now....
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Hey... For some it might just be a little beyond rocket science... :p

Six Star said:
Here's the unescapable fact: My .223 brass runs through my Lee sizing die effortlessly with RCBS Case Slick. With One Shot, almost every case jams solidly in the sizing die. If you read my original post, you'll see that I tried every combination of lubing technique imaginable with the One Shot product and my .223 brass; nothing changed. Even brand new .223 brass stuck solidly in the die. You'll also see that I ran some .308 Winchester and 300 Win Mag brass through using One Shot. Although it required a lot more effort than with RCBS Case Slick, the brass didn't stick in either sizer die (both Lee and RCBS, btw). My point is that there is something inherently wrong with the One Shot formula that makes it ineffective with .223 brass.
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I duuno... I guess this is a good example of the old saying "Your results may vary"
I can honestly say I've NEVER experienced any of the problems you're having with the stuff.

'Beginning to think... 'Maybe your die is f***ed..?
 
I've used it for quite a while. I found that it works best in small cartridges. If your not happy with it Hornady will gladley replace it with something else Hornady. Free of cost.
 
Eagleye said:
Sorry, cannot concur with this statement.
Never heard of a case stuck in a die because the neck was not lubed inside.
A bit hard to pull over the expander button, maybe, but stuck in the die? Not.

I have little or no use for spray lubes, and have used Imperial Sizing Wax for 20+ years now, with nary a glitch.
I hate getting any lube on the shoulder of a bottleneck case, so another reason to avoid the spray types.
Whatever works, though. carry on.
Eagleye.
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Only 20 years? That's interesting - i had always assumed you were more experienced. Carry on. :)
 
667 said:
Hey... For some it might just be a little beyond rocket science... :p
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Well, yes....can't argue with you there, having seen many instances of reloading-gone-wrong on the range.


667 said:
I duuno... I guess this is a good example of the old saying "Your results may vary"
I can honestly say I've NEVER experienced any of the problems you're having with the stuff.

'Beginning to think... 'Maybe your die is f***ed..?
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That's what I initially thought, but the Lee die set works just fine with other lubes. I even found and tried some Lee Resizing Lubricant (in the 'toothpaste' tube) and again, the .223 Rem cases sized effortlessly. Back to One Shot and the first case stuck in the die. So I dunno. Anyhow, when the new RCBS die arrives I'll report back.
 
If your dies work OK with different lubes and resize brass properly I doubt very much the dies are the problem.

One-shot is just a lube dissolved in a solvent and it should have lubricating qualities not so much different than any other run of the mill case lube. From the description I'd bet that you got a bad batch of one-shot. Sounds like it's lacking lubricant, maybe it's pure solvent without the lube.

After you spray it on and leave it for a while the solvent evaporates leaving a film of lube behind. It should feel slightly greasy or slippery to the touch. If it feels dry then there's no lubricant present in the spray and in that case I'd bet you got a defective product that slipped through the quality control. It would be interesting to have you try a different can and see if it worked better.
 
Good thoughts.....Yes, I guess it's possible that the can of One Shot that I have could be 'defective' and got by QA. It certainly does not leave much of a film on the brass after it dries. I would like to try another can, but at $10.95 a can, I'm pretty reluctant to take that chance. I googled the issue and sure enough, the ratio of "I love One Shot" to "I hate One Shot" was about the same as here. <g>
 
I have only been doing it for about 2 months now, but use both RCBS lube and the One Shot Spray. No problems with either on my Hornady Classic press. I've done well over 1000 rounds now with no issues from either. I can't say how many I did with each one, but I'd guess half.

My method for the One Shot, is I lay it down on a mouse pad I have, spray the top, roll it, spray the other side and roll it back and forth a bit. Then I spray a shot in the necks. I've loaded 6.8SPC, .257 Weatherby and .308. No .223 yet. I've sprayed up to 24 in a batch, 3 rows of 8 on the mouse pad.

C.
 
I've used up one whole can reloading about 1000 rounds of 5.56mm this year. Never had a problem. I think One Shot works perfectly! Maybe your dosage isn't high enough? I spray the cases fairly liberally.

That said, I think I'm going to start using lanolin oil and alcohol now, it's easier to come by (at least around here anyway) and costs a fraction of what One Shot does.
 
I purchased both the one shot and the Lyman case lube in the spring.
My dealer thinks the lube may have frozen in transport rendering it ineffective.
Since I have had great success using the Dillon spray lube which is isopropyl alcohol and lanolin there is no need to revisit the other lubes.
 
667 said:
I stumbled across a recipe for a home made lube...
Calls for 1 part liquid lanolin to 12 parts 99% isopropyl alcohol...
There's a process to mix the two ingredients and from all intertoobs reports I've read it works very well.

It's also dirt cheap.
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I finally got around to making up some of this boot leg case lube...
Tried it tonight and all I will say about it is...

I will NEVER buy another can of commercially produced case lube...

The liquid lanolin and IPA mixed at a 1:12 ratio is by far the best lube EVAAAARRR!

Toss 50 .223 cases into a large ziploc bag.. Two/three sprays of Boot Leg Lube into the bag... Shake 'em around and go.

I Know I said One Shot was okay, but compared to this boot leg lube, One Shot feels like you're lubing your cases with sand.
 
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