Hornady ZMAX - Reloads

Hi There.......

Anyone know the process for reloading the Hornady Zombie Max in 30-30. I see on there site you can order A-Max, Z-Max and A-Max bullets but cant find mention of specific Die's to do the job.

I know the casings are a little shorter but that's all I know.

Thanks.

RH, North Saanich, BC.
 
are you already setup to reload? I'm unclear of what you're asking. Do you already have empty once fired "zmax" brass? It is just regular hornady 30-30 brass with a different bullet that I would imagine was the lever-evolution bullet with a green tip.
 
I have some 30 30 brass , win and hornady. They're both the same lenght at 2.035. Both once fired. The only diff is the rim is thicker on the hornady. The only diff is the projectiles, the lever evolution I had , had red tips. And it says on the box , that they may not work well in all rifles, something to do with the mag followers . They performed excellent in my marlin 3030.
 
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I'm in the middle of setting up for reloading......I have shot 2 boxes of Z-Max in my 336SS. Better accuracy for sure with it. No feed issues at all.

I have read the Hornady Levereveloution series is not the same size casing as say a Winchester Super X. Have also read special Die's need to be ordered from Hornady for reloading.

It does seem strange as a 30-30 round needs to be cycled, loaded, fired and ejected. In theory they should all be the same lenght?

I'm OK to reload in any of the plastic tipped bullets. Does not need to be the freaky green ones....

Thanks.
 
The zmax and the leverlution are the same ,just a diff color. The tips are softer than other caliber tips,so you don't set off another rnd in the mag when cycling. The Winchester and the hornady cases are the same lenght. As far as I know ,there are only 2 polymer tips for the 3030, green and red. Different by color only. And only available from Hornady.
 
There is a LOT of confusion out there for the ZMAX bullets. Mostly because they are several different types of bullets (AMAX, VMAX, FTX, etc.) with a green tip instead of a red tip but many people think they are all AMAX or all VMAX for some reason.

The 30-30 ZMAX are FTX bullets; 100% identical except for the colour. The only cases that had to be made oddly short to work with FTX bullets are the 45-70's and that's only in certain rifles; full length cases work in most rifles. All the other FTX ammo (357, 44, 30-30, 308MX, etc.) uses standard length cases.

Most of the .224" ZMAX bullets are VMAX with a different colour tip. I think some might be AMAX.
The 168gr .308" ZMAX bullets are AMAX but the 110gr .308" are VMAX.

You just have to remember that Hornady didn't make any new bullets for the ZMAX line; they only used a different colour tip for the plastic or rubber in existing bullets they already made. If you want to know what a ZMAX bullet is, check their normal product line for that weight and shape. It'll be the same bullet with a different coloured tip, that's all. I've had several people tell me the .308" 168gr ZMAX is a VMAX bullet but there is no VMAX in .308" except for the 110gr. So Hornady designed, tested, and manufactured an entirely new bullet for a gimmick? No, not possible, I can't see components manufacturer making that large of a fiscal mistake.

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Onto loading FTX bullets in general (and 30-30 ZMAX as an extension)...
My Lee 30-30 dies press against the ogive of the FTX bullet, not the zip, even though they are an odd shape. As a result the rubber shouldn't come into play during reloading and you should be able to do everything as normal. My 44 mag dies on the other hand press against the tip so usually really deform the rubber tip and sometimes have inconsistent seating depth because of it. The rubber springs back after a couple minutes. I could drill out the seating stem but I don't often use FTX bullets for 44 mag so it's good enough for me.

I shot two boxes of Hornady FTX for 30-30 (not ZMAX) and found all the primer pockets to be significantly too short. They were actually the perfect depth for large pistol primers, not rifle. For the amount of work it took to cut them with a uniforming tool, even in a cordless drill, and how much Win/FC/RP 30-30 brass I have lying around, I just tossed the Hornady brass in the scrap box. I don't know if it was just one lot or what but I'd check the primer pocket depths.
 
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