Hottest possible hunting load for .30 carbine (in an M1)

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My universal carbine finally showed up. It's a great light little gun, and I think it will make an excellent backpacker for when I'm sloshing through the swamps and keeping my shots at 50-75 yds tops.

I want to develope a load for this rifle that'll take down deer within 100yds. Basically I want to hop up the charge to as much as the action will stand, and then add a devestating bullet, just to make sure that I can down something if I shoot within 100yds.

What do you guys use?
What are the pressure maximums for the M1 carbine action?
 
a 30 M1 carbine is just about the last rifle that i would use on a deer.

50 yards maybe, but i don't see you making it into a 100 yard deer gun.

my advice, get an sks, it has far more jam.
 
The .30 Carbine is NOT a deer cartridge! Maybe jackrabbits, maybe turtles, maybe gophers...

and, yes, I have two .30 Carbine rifles and one .30 Carbine handgun.
 
30 M1 Carbine
Primer: Remington 6 1/2 Test Firearm: Inland M1 Carbine
Case: Remington BBL Length: 18"
Twist: 1x20" Trim-to Length: 1.280"
Bullets:
#2100 .30 Caliber/7.62mm (.308) 110 gr. RN OAL 1.680
#2105 .30 Caliber/7.62mm (.308) 110 gr. FMJ OAL 1.680

Powder/Velocity 1600 1700 1800 1900
AA-No.9
11.6
12.2
12.7

Norma R123 10.9
11.6
12.2


H110
11.7
12.8
13.8

Viht N110 10.8
11.6
12.3


296
11.9
13.2
14.5

2400 11.0
11.9
12.7
13.6

IMR-4227 13.2
13.9
14.7
15.4

AA-1680
15.2
16.0


Energy/ft.lbs. 625 706 791 882
Accuracy Load: H110/ 13.8grs. 1900fps/ 882ft. lbs.
Hunting Load: H110/ 13.8grs. 1900fps/ 882ft. lbs.
Copyright 2003 Sierra Bullets, LLC.
 
30 M1 Carbine
With World War II on the horizon, the U.S. Ordnance Corps saw the need for a more effective weapon for personnel normally armed with only a handgun. Issuing a light, compact carbine to company grade officers, engineers, tank and artillery troops was deemed to be the answer. With this goal in mind, evaluation of a number of designs began in 1941. Later that year, a Winchester model was formally adopted. Officially dubbed the U.S. Carbine, Caliber 30, M1, this handy little rifle served through World War II, Korea and Vietnam. Opinions on the carbine's combat effectiveness vary, but one fact remains - the M1 carbine was produced in greater numbers than any other piece of equipment designed by the ordnance corps, with the exception of the M1 steel helmet. During its service life, several government contractors produced approximately six million carbines. With the new rifle came a new cartridge  the 30 M1 Carbine. Based on the obsolete 32 Winchester Self-Loading round, the 30 M1 is essentially a straight-walled pistol cartridge. Original loading specifications called for a 110 grain FMJ at 1,970 feet per second. Though suitable for its intended purpose, the 30 Carbine is inadequate for big game hunting. Generating around 900 ft. lbs. of energy with top loads, it is best relegated to small game, plinking or short-range varminting. Regardless, the 30 Carbine can be reloaded with good results and is a genuinely fun cartridge. Like most straight-wall rimless cases, the 30 Carbine headspaces on the case mouth. Therefore, we recommend applying only a modest taper crimp after bullet seating. As always, we strongly recommend the crimp as a separate operation after the bullet has been seated. Due to its limited capacity, only a narrow range of powders are suitable for reloading the 30 Carbine. We have found Hodgdon's H110 and the Winchester 296 to be two of the better choices for both accuracy and velocity.
Copyright © 2003 Sierra Bullets, LLC.
 
I have plenty of real guns, milsurp and deticated hunting rifles. I'd never use the .30 carbine as a do all, or even really praise it as a deer gun, I'm just wondering what I can load that'll let me take a 25-50yd standing shot if I'm just kicking the ####.
 
For humane purposes, why not get a sporterized LE .303?

You can probably find one for less than $200 and it will GREATLY lessen your chance of woundiing a deer sized animal.
 
There's no way I'd ever use an M1 on deer. Too small. All the attributes you're looking for - light, short, easy handling, robust - can be found in rifles chambered for adequate rounds. A lever carbine, an SKS, a 'sporter' enfield, and others would all be much more suitable.

I'm of the opinion that you should appreciate cartridges/guns for what they are, and not try to make them into something they're not. And an M1 is not a deer gun.

That said, 357's have been used on deer, and have less muzzle energy than the M1. But I still wouldn't
 
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Barnes used to make a 110 gr. X in 30 caliber, not sure if loaded in a 30 carbine it could still chamber/feed/expand etc

if you could get it to expand at those slow speeds, then thatd be the best option. Hornady also makes a 110 gr. vmax that *may* not be *too* violent at 30carbine speeds.
 
Its tempting to carry the little m1 in the deer woods,it being lite fast handeling and (mine is) quite accurate.I can't find any load though that I could use on deer with good concience.If in the thick with close shots even good hits would likely leave a very poor blood trail.Imho the rifle you may want to consider is a ruger 44 deerfield.Its m1ish but much more potent.
 
If you have a standard 18" barrel, you can't hunt anything with it. It's restricted. If it has a longer than 18.5" barrel and it's a late model Universal, it's likely going to break sooner or later(the op handles are known to break) and loading hot will hasten that. If it's an early model, work up a load with IMR4227 and 110 grain HP's.
Early/late? One return spring or two? A toggle for the bolt hold open or a plunger? A poorly made stamped op handle or a machined one? One spring, a plunger and machined op handle indicates an early model.
 
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